calvinhorse 870 Posted December 13, 2014 Broke it? The turreted base model? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallyeash 155 Posted December 13, 2014 No sandy used to have a 309 trio with a H22 engine. Thread was type R-io from memory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallyeash 155 Posted December 15, 2014 I collected a GTI subframe and anti roll bar from Anthony yesterday and finished working around 4 today so I could get a decent amount of time on the 309. First of all got it so to the workshop as for a while now it won't be mobile... Dropped the base spec running gear out. - keeping the rack and hubs so removed them after the picture. Fitted the GTI subframe and steering rack back on. Ground off the gear selector bracket and various threads sticking out of the bay. Much easier now than struggling when the engine catches on it. Removed the gear linkage and gearstick. I'm really hoping the civic gearstick will be able to fit here and look standard. I want to refit the trim in the left of the pic to keep it subtle looking. I then had a picture from the engine supplier. So should see it all tomorrow! Role on tomorrow evening when the fun starts. More updates late tomorrow evening. I'm hoping to get the engine externally stripped down because it's a complete lump and lots will be surplus and maybe offered into the engine bay to see what's what! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Powers 13 Posted December 15, 2014 The Civic shifter wont mount to the floor. You will need the Integra DC5 one and cables. There are other options but that is the cheapest. However you won't fit the standard gear shifter surround and faux leather/ vinyl gaiter over the DC5 one! Also if you looking to do it on the cheap you can get immobiliser removal kits for the standard ECU's. These are around £80. If you are going for Hondata you want the wideband version (U.S) model. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallyeash 155 Posted December 15, 2014 Ok cheers, I've got a civic one turning up with my engine tomorrow so we'll see what's what. Will be on bodies and DTA. What bodies do you run on yours? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Powers 13 Posted December 15, 2014 I have some Satchell / Hayabusa ones on one and AT power on another. Will try some Hayward performance ones towards the end of next year. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallyeash 155 Posted December 15, 2014 Don't wana sell any of your setups now? Like the Satchell busa ones for the right money... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Powers 13 Posted December 16, 2014 Thanks for the offer but they are in use. If I hear of any others I will let you know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallyeash 155 Posted December 17, 2014 Engine didn't turn up yesterday... But it turned up this afternoon. Stripped it back and removed lots of standard non required stuff. Some bits will be fitted back on ie water pump and alternator Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallyeash 155 Posted December 17, 2014 Slid underneath Spent a couple of hours getting it on the correct position Gearbox mount will be made here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chipstick 382 1 Cars Posted December 17, 2014 Looks like a relatively straight forward fabrication on the gearbox side as it's almost there- mind you, says he who can't weld or fabricate What's the situation on the drivers side for the engine mount? Looking at the engine it appears to be in the right area at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallyeash 155 Posted December 17, 2014 Purchased a new welder for the workshop today too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallyeash 155 Posted December 17, 2014 Looks like a relatively straight forward fabrication on the gearbox side as it's almost there- mind you, says he who can't weld or fabricate What's the situation on the drivers side for the engine mount? Looking at the engine it appears to be in the right area at least. It should be to complicated to do them. My plan is when I get hold of the right engine mounts to work with I'll tac it up with the engine in then remove, weld fully and paint. With the offside mount I'll chop away all of the original and do something there. It'll have a front lower engine mount apposed to a rear one. The lower slam panel on a 309 is much bigger than a 205 so the lower mount will come from there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allye 530 3 Cars Posted December 17, 2014 not sure if any other 309'ers want to comment but i wouldnt be mounting much to that front radiator mount area! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallyeash 155 Posted December 18, 2014 Well, it's decent strength and where Colin used for the K20 309 track car that powers now owns 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
calvinhorse 870 Posted December 18, 2014 It'll want beefing up a bit, just a few stitch welds Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallyeash 155 Posted December 18, 2014 Of course, we will be adding strength where required. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chipstick 382 1 Cars Posted December 18, 2014 So a couple of 309s have had this conversion. Make another set of mounts whilst you're at it. A 205 needs it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S@m 156 Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) There was a 205 on here from barbados with a k20 fitted, he had managed to keep the chassis completely standard and use a BE box. Thus; http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?showtopic=120084 Edited December 18, 2014 by S@m Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allye 530 3 Cars Posted December 18, 2014 i appreciate those boys thoroughly know what they are doing but i still wouldnt be comfortable using that bar, its so thin! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallyeash 155 Posted December 18, 2014 This morning, got into work and had a rummage for some bushes and dad came up with some Landrover defender suspension bushes... Going to use two in parallel for the gearbox mount. Required a small trim down so they would fit width wise and so the inners will butt up together. Trimmed, left one sat the other way round to show before and after. As they will sit Plenty of space here still. I will get some pipe that can be welded to the chassis and these bushes will get pressed into them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallyeash 155 Posted December 18, 2014 There was a 205 on here from barbados with a k20 fitted, he had managed to keep the chassis completely standard and use a BE box. Thus; http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?showtopic=120084 I've browsed at that before hand given it some thought. By the time you adapt the BE box to fit ill of sorted the engine mounts out. I want to use the CTR box and all the benefits it brings, 6 speed, cable shift, hydraulic clutch etc. plus it'll be much more suited to the 9k engine.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chipstick 382 1 Cars Posted December 18, 2014 Would a Honda gearbox/chassis mount have been adaptable do you think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallyeash 155 Posted December 18, 2014 No, it's sat here on my desk! It's too bulky. If the engine bay was 3' wider I would of used it. Shame as would of made life easy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy 189 Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) We used the front cross member on my H22 conversion too. With four mounts it wasn't doing much, but I had the bolt out of it at one point and you could notice the difference in transmission take up. Note that we used very stiff bushes all round, not leaping around like it would on OE bushes. I did 27,000 miles in mine in about 10 months and nothing broke, so probably got it right. Edited December 18, 2014 by Sandy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
