[trackday_prep] Paul's Gti6

[Paul_13 212 1 Cars]

Ok cheers Spiky, wasn't slating you off or anything in the text above. Was in a temper tantrum last night

 

It's an ABS car so I was expecting something to be different.

I'm about to head over to my mates garage shortly and see how I get on

[Spiky 37]

no probs dude

 

dont help pug didnt stick to one system

 

multimetre is your friend, couple of mins with it, and you will get to the bottom of it

[Paul_13 212 1 Cars]

I'm borrowing my step dads £400 jobby

 

So i'm looking for switched lives and constant lives. I've printed off what people have replied with so hopefully it will be sorted

[Spiky 37]

on my loom

 

the thick red should be switch live

 

the thich blue is starter

 

thick white is fuel pump

 

i can send you pics of all the wires if you want them? so easy to know what wires do what on my loom?

[Paul_13 212 1 Cars]

If thats ok Spiky

 

That'd be fab!

[Paul_13 212 1 Cars]

Also is the fuel relay redundant now?

[Paul_13 212 1 Cars]

PM received Cheers spiky

[Spiky 37]

no 205 fuel relay

 

you now use the gti6's fuel relay, it's a double one near the ecu plug

 

if you take it off pin14 will go live with the ignition on (but only if you are sending a switched live down the loom)

[Paul_13 212 1 Cars]

Thought it was redundant, I was there for about hour last night looking for the damn plug lol

 

I'm off to go and give it a bash (with a BFH)

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

Just swap the Starter and switched live over, Early and late car's changed around 1991, easy as that

[Paul_13 212 1 Cars]

Just did that Miles to no avail...

[Paul_13 212 1 Cars]

I tested a few things with the multimeter tonight, I swapped the starter and live as Miles stated. Everything is how it should be but still no joy.

 

 

 

 

Thats how things are looking at the moment ^ Fuel pump turns on and the starter turns when it should.

 

I tested the double relay and pins 2, 8, 11, 14 and 15 all have voltage.

 

There's no spark and no fuel being injected, i'm not sure if the ecu is being powered up.

 

I've tried 2 ECU's now still no luck...

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

Is the CAS working OK?

[Paul_13 212 1 Cars]

Is the CAS working OK?

 

Unsure what CAS stands for Miles, probably me being stupid

[Paul_13 212 1 Cars]

Crank alignment sensor? In which case it is present. (does this need setting up etc?)

Theres no fuel being injected and no spark which confuses me.

 

I've got sh!t luck if i've got 2 locked ecu's

Edited June 22, 2009 by paul_xiii

[rubyna 4 1 Cars]

Cant you check it with the ECU you had off of Anthony as that wouldnt be locked?.

[Paul_13 212 1 Cars]

Good idea batman, only problem is though it's my mates and if I lock it....

I'll have to get him a new one.

 

Does any one know for deffinate how they lock themselves, e.g. what has to be connected to the car (transponder)?

[rubyna 4 1 Cars]

It cant be locked now by using it the 205.

Edited June 22, 2009 by rubyna

[Paul_13 212 1 Cars]

I see, I'll have to give it a go.

 

Strange though because both ECU's were bought under the intention of them being unlocked.

 

I reckon it's something really stupid i'm missing here...

 

How is the ecu supplied with power?

[Spiky 37]

double realy knackered?

 

http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.ph...3&page=last

[Spiky 37]

also looking at your looms, my looms were correct,

 

check you have the alternator wired on the alternator and the starter on the starter, between the brown connectors and the where the alternator/starter is in the bay

 

just incase you got them the wrong way around

 

 

also the constant live, you have connected that to the constant live of the starter or alternator? (the larger terminals) and not put it on the smaller terminals?

Edited June 22, 2009 by Spiky

[Paul_13 212 1 Cars]

Hi spiky,

Got a good feeling the double relays knackered, reading Smeghalls post it says; 'If the pumps on when the ignition is on, that proves the relays knackered'.

 

I bought it off Jonnie205 a while back says it all...

 

Right wanted thread next, unless you have one?

 

Thanks

Paul

[Spiky 37]

have you got an inertis switch attached?

 

if not have you connected the wires together,

 

this is by the ecu and double relay plug

[Paul_13 212 1 Cars]

'also the constant live, you have connected that to the constant live of the starter or alternator? (the larger terminals) and not put it on the smaller terminals?'

 

The constant live I have placed on the larger terminals, is this ment to go on the smaller terminals?

 

My alternator only has a spade connector as a smaller terminal(?)

 

 

Inertia switch- wired them together last night, couldn't be arsed with the switch.

Edited June 22, 2009 by paul_xiii

[Spiky 37]

id not buy a second have double relay unless i "knew" it did work

 

i not sure if i got any spares, will have a look

 

'also the constant live, you have connected that to the constant live of the starter or alternator? (the larger terminals) and not put it on the smaller terminals?'

 

The constant live I have placed on the larger terminals, is this ment to go on the smaller terminals?

 

My alternator only has a spade connector as a smaller terminal(?)

 

 

it's meant to go on the constant live (battery cable) the larger of the two

 

 

 

you still havent got the bottom of why the starter is getting live at notch 2 and not notch 3,

 

check and make sure you have conencted the wires up correctly

Edited June 22, 2009 by Spiky