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djinuk

[engine_work] Project 205 8v To Gti6

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djinuk

Well ive been on these boards a while now, using them simply for advice and sometimes helping others , and i must say they are the most usefull/active boards i have used. Anyway around a year ago i saved a poor 205 which had been sat in a field for a number of years, after putting a good running 1.9 8v in aswell as full magnex, solid engine mounts, fully samco'd,avo coilovers and a rebuild rear beam , and virtually everything else in between, ive decided to take the plunge and look into doing the gti6 engine conversion as i managed to come across one from a friend with around 80k at a decent price.

 

Here are a few pics of the car which will recieve the treatment, please forgive the laryness etc of the car, im to young at the moment being only 20 to stick 100% standard so i do play with colors etc,

 

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djinuk

Now i went upto day to see the engine, and decided to bring part of the loom home to begin getting to grips with it all.

 

The large peice of loom

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huge block which i am guessing bolts through the bulk head into the interior loom, not sure what happens to this on the 205 conversions.

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lots more plugs

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repair work needed here, guessing somebody slipped with a grinder, no worries there

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any idea what this goes to

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lots more urmm blocks

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and what im guessing is the power sorce for the gti6 loom, guessing this goes from the battery to the starter, then onto the rest of the loom

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and then these two plugs, which i believe are going to be the ones which are chopped and the rest of the 205 loom mates into.

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Now i will look into this lot more when i get chance, but if anybody wishes to enlighten me on what i have photographed there, both more my benefit and for other whom may wish to use this project for information should they wish to perform this transplant.

 

Anyway that is the start to the project, please do enjoy :)

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Oakley

Love the orange wheels in the top picturee :)

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Fox

Looks good, I'm doing the same conversion currently, not looking forward to the wiring.

 

Had to laugh at the lass in the car, reminds me of my girlfriend, "If your not coming inside, I'm coming out to help" (Then gets bored almost straight away!)

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djinuk

yep, :) id love to say shes mapping the car, however its actually sims shes sat on, thanks for the compliment on the wheels, my friend owns a spray shop so whenever we get board i spray somthing :)

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mechanicalrepairs

Just done mine and it went ok no real tramas.

 

The plug you are holding and asking what it is for is the plug for the double function relay, sat behind the battery box on the gti6

 

Carl C.G.Cars

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Peetypug

Even though i haven't even finished mine yet your more than welcome to ask me anything about what i've done.

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djinuk

ah brill, if anybody has a photo of this relay i would be most great full, the lad has a full gti6 in bits in his garage, in boxes, so you see its a case of me fishing the parts i need out, and that relay will be one of them things. Cheers for that pete, i will be giving you a call at some point soon.

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kate205gti

yay another white 6 :) looks good :)

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Peetypug

these are some of the pics i got sent

 

loom

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wiring diagram for an mi16 (i think)

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306 loom wire codes (some need filling in)

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spikys cooling plan

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my cooling plan

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some of them may help you

others may not

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Fox

Tastic Pete!

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jtek

Good to see another GTI-6 thread starting up, I am in a similar position myself at the moment!

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djinuk

thanks for them pics pete, will help me out lots, just out of interest, is there a loom wrapped around the engine, which also has the ecu plug on it, and does that connect onto this loom i alreay have through a 8 pin roung multi plug.

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Peetypug
thanks for them pics pete, will help me out lots, just out of interest, is there a loom wrapped around the engine, which also has the ecu plug on it, and does that connect onto this loom i alreay have through a 8 pin roung multi plug.

 

on the gti6 engine the whole loom and ecu plug is in the engine bay, it should be all one piece

 

get some pics of your full loom on here (so all the plugs are in one picture)

 

also, i never used the fuse box that you have and i dont think anybody else has either

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djinuk

hmm, ok well ive taken a few pictures, .. I have got the rest of the loom yet but take a look and see what you think folks, im hoping to bring everything to light and photograph as much as i can, for me, and also for future ref on anybody else doing the gti6 conversion.

 

best pic i could get of the full loom

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strange block, which i am told bolts to the bulk head, where the 2nd half which contains the interior loom also bolts onto

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lots of color full connectors bundled together

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now the strange bit, i have 1x 19 pin plug, and 2x8 pin multiplugs which are situatated all right next to the double relay plug 21072007387.jpg

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welshpug

2nd and 3rd pic you dont use those parts at all, 4th pic, most of the wires required are int eh larger pin, one of the smaller ones is for the cooling fans, and the remaining has a few sensor wires IIRC.

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djinuk

where abouts does this part of the loom actually plug into the section which is wrapped around the engine and the ecu plug then if you dont mind me asking :unsure:

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djinuk

well today, i grabbed myself one of these as i think its going to be needed.

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Also got the lamda sensor ill be needing (bosch) as i swear by them.

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And the great gti6 manifold

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I also managed to get a speedo drive plastic thingy, with a 3 pin electronic connection, and the facility to take the speedo drive cable.

I removed it from a 306 xsi (ma gearbox i believe) however the shafts and cogs were slightly diffrent, but i swapped them straight over, no problems.

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M@tt

excellent

 

another step closer :)

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Peetypug

are those my beers in the pick with the lambda :)

 

thats the best way, collect all your bits then go from there :D

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CaptainK

You are going to love the 205 with the GTi6 engine in it. I have one as well, though I didn't do the conversion myself. Fantastic cars when they are running and can be a little scary to drive. :)

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djinuk

not really done much over xmas, but got delivery of my new engine crane, and tested the loading capacity by getting ben to hang off it.

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djinuk

well , i got the engine today, the lad also gave me fuel lines, lots of heatshrink etc, more interior loom, engine loom is still attached on it, and a few other bits and bobs, only thing im still waiting on is the engine mounts.

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djinuk

ok update, i now have some pics of the engine, also i wrapped it up until i need to look at putting it in.

 

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djinuk

well ive got a couple of extra bits,

 

Loom for the rev counter on the gti6 off spiky

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And a adapter to fit the therostat housing off my 8v onto the gti6 from stew @ bm baker

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