ricky123 0 Posted March 2, 2008 How hard would it be to put a 106 GTi engine into a 205?? My mate has just crashed his 106 an has said i can have the engine cheap so im thinking about putting it in my 205. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GLPoomobile 958 Posted March 3, 2008 It'll fit in the boot just fine, but might be a bit of a struggle unless you have a mate to help out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d-9 0 Posted March 3, 2008 U'll need a XS top engine mount, a grinder, probably base model driveshafts, a bit of enthusiasm with wiring and plumbing, but it will fit fairly easily. Do it, 106 GTI engine is brilliant and much better than the XU 8v. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
205007 12 Posted March 3, 2008 it will need more than enthusiasm and at the end of it all?................ a poxy 120bhp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy 189 Posted March 3, 2008 It weighs more than the XU 8v sadly. I know we've been down this road many times, but compared to the XU engine options, the 106GTi engine doesn't stack up well, especially the MA gearbox. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djinuk 2 Posted March 3, 2008 looking into doing this myself, what put me off more than anything , was the thought of me spending lots and lots of timing making it fit, and work, and then to now of some one throwing a mi16 into a pug over the weekend and having a extra 40bhp on top as per standard lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d-9 0 Posted March 3, 2008 it will need more than enthusiasm and at the end of it all?................a poxy 120bhp This is where the paper specs are misleading, pug underestimated the power figures to keep the insurance costs down, and fitted a french horn to the induction system to reuce power. Throw that away, add a decent airfilter, 4 branch and decat and most make aroudn 140bhp. Plus the paper specs dont really show what a joy the TU16v is to drive, feels really free and rev happy, plus being that bit more modern than the mi, it starts on the key everyday. Mentioning exhausts reminds me, you'd also need to modify the manifold and stuff to clear the subframe. Before you have the engine off your mate, make sure you unlock the ecu, by starting it up and unplugging the keypad or transponder module while its running. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jrod 7 Posted March 3, 2008 Don't forget you would will need to change the gear linkage position on the subframe aswell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricky123 0 Posted March 3, 2008 Sounds like alot of work to me as i would probably only have a weekend free to do it in, i mite do it depending on how cheap he is going to let me have the engine. Thanks for the info about this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d-9 0 Posted March 3, 2008 i probably wouldnt attempt it if there was only one weekend to do it in. It should be possible, but theres a whole lot of technicalitys that come up when you do engine conversions(like having to figure out wiring, or discovering the plumbing doesnt fit). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James_R 3 Posted March 3, 2008 but MA gearboxes :s Mi's are getting rarer these days an s16 or GTi6 (even better in std trim) would be a better idea for bang per buck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaveW 6 Posted March 3, 2008 Yes ma boxes are wank but so easy to change and they are lighter than the BE's to fit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnie205 1 Posted March 3, 2008 should not be too bad to fit just use all xs stuff like shafts, gear linkages etc its only a std tu with a 16v head. OK they aint to quick as std but bolt the 106 cup rally upgrades on and they go like stink. However the MA boxes are very very bad you will break many. Casings, gears, mounts, diffs its all very weak indeed. They literally fall to pieces if driven hard. A 307 1.4 box i think are BE with an MA bellhousing so you could try and make that fit but dont expect it to happen without lots of thought, time and effort Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jrod 7 Posted March 3, 2008 However the MA boxes are very very bad you will break many. Casings, gears, mounts, diffs its all very weak indeed. They literally fall to pieces if driven hard. I'll correct you slightly.... They literally fall to pieces if driven. http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?s...mp;#entry787385 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,623 Posted March 3, 2008 (edited) you do get this sound if tinkered with though (i'm sure this is a 16v TU, sam's old car maybe?) Edited March 3, 2008 by welshpug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danpug 1 Posted March 3, 2008 For the work you may as well just go xu16v but the power of the tu16v on paper is very misleading, it'll make a 205 pretty rapid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy 189 Posted March 4, 2008 you do get this sound if tinkered with though (i'm sure this is a 16v TU, sam's old car maybe?) Sam's 1.6 8v TU with Quaife MA (I'm driving it there!), about 300 miles later (iirc), the box was fubar. And the one in the other 205 Rallye (my old one) didn't last much longer either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
