[engine_work] New Project: V6 205

[ledders 1]

What a project I am about to embark on a conv myself but somthing a bit more tame wish you all the luck, and not too many cut knuckles... Ledders.

[mitch205gti 1]

Well I just think your greedy!

So your best option is to build the car then give it to me Best all round I think!

 

Also if you need any help let me know!

[welshpug 1,622]

come on Matt have you started the conversion yet?

[jackherer 543]

Did'nt realise that a V6 weighed about the same as a GTi6 lump though......

 

I don't have any scales so this isn't scientific but my gti6 seems a lot lighter than my v6s, I can move the gti6 around the garage by myself but the v6s are too heavy

[M@tt 77]

Andy/Mitch all hands will gratefully be received

 

The plan is to first finish the dropping the turbo lump in the CTI and get that out the way and running before makign a start on the V6 so looking at a couple of months at least i reckon before i satrt on it.

 

The V6 weighs alot more than a GTI 6 lump i'd say. Trying to get it out the back of the 106 was a complete mission and moving it around isn't the easiest.

[VisaGTi16v 1]

V6 lump is 40-50kg heavier than a gti6 Jack

[Alan_M 66 1 Cars]

I'm just going by what someone had said on here.....

 

Still fancy a 306 V6 though

[jackherer 543]

V6 lump is 40-50kg heavier than a gti6 Jack

 

That sounds about right, the only way I have found to get my Xant V6 to go round corners is to keep my right foot planted while I stab the brakes with my left foot otherwise it just ploughs straight on!

[ade 4wd 11]

I finished my V6 205 just in time for Pugfest last year and is used daily without any problems. All the work was done by myself so if i can be of any help just ask. Good luck with the conversion, you wont be disapointed.

[M_R_205 5 1 Cars]

V6 lump is 40-50kg heavier than a gti6 Jack

 

Sorry for the butt in but how much in total does the v6 weigh??

[VisaGTi16v 1]

I forget exact figures, try a google. The XU9 ally Mi16's are something like 135kg bare with no box, XU10's are about 15-20kg heavier and I recall a figure of around 195kg for a bare V6 but the box is heavier as well. I think a BE3 box is about 30kg or just under?

 

oh yer Alan, would make a nice every day car, 306/zx/205 etc with a V6 in, lovely sound etc just would be a bit nose heavy for a track car although you could dial some of that out

Edited January 14, 2008 by VisaGTi16v

[VisaGTi16v 1]

I think the best solution although not the easiest or cheapest is just to bin the rear seats and chuck it in the middle of the car like the Clio V6

[M_R_205 5 1 Cars]

I think the best solution although not the easiest or cheapest is just to bin the rear seats and chuck it in the middle of the car like the Clio V6

thats what im thinking, i was going to put an mi16 there but why not a v6........... can anyone weld?

 

Edited January 14, 2008 by M_R_205

[VisaGTi16v 1]

Cable ties can be used for anything

[cybernck 400 1 Cars]

I finished my V6 205 just in time for Pugfest last year and is used daily without any problems. All the work was done by myself so if i can be of any help just ask. Good luck with the conversion, you wont be disapointed.

 

and we're still waiting to see the pics of both V6 setup and the previous Mi16x4 setup .

[ade 4wd 11]

I will try and get pics up before the weekend. I have no internet at home.

[Rippthrough 98]

thats what im thinking, i was going to put an mi16 there but why not a v6........... can anyone weld?

 

 

I spy rear turret holes?

[M_R_205 5 1 Cars]

Iv an idea, il start a new thread save me hijacking this one, sorry

[welshpug 1,622]

someone on PSOOC has already done a V6 in the back, in a 106

 

an interesting approach and quite similar to Cybernck's one, i.e weld in the front end of the donor car in the hole in the boot floor.

[Hilgie 16 2 Cars]

The V6 weighs 165kg without its box. But that is a whole lot heavier than a BE3 box.

[Peetypug 5]

sorry for the hijack

i'm thinking about this now

are all the engine mounts the same? and will the 1.9 gearbox fit?

[danpug 1]

No and no! Iirc the gearbox mount is the only one that fits. Check out hilgies website, it'll give you a decent a rough idea of the work involved.

[M@tt 77]

need to make a new top moutn , think the subframe needs cutting/altering to accommodate bottom engine mout fork and no it uses a different gearbox (MA i think)

[Hilgie 16 2 Cars]

The gearbox is an ML5T (which is also found on the late 2.0T engines) but with a custom bellhousing specifically for the V6.

 

The subframe needs a lot of cutting not only to accomodate the bottom enginmount, but to make room for the immense diff casing.