Brembo 4 Pots

[Jer309GTi 3]

Anyone know of a 405 fitted with the 406 Brembo 4 piston front brakes? Haven't got a clue about the disc offset sizes of the 405/406 so don't know if it's a viable mod or whether theres no chance of them fitting

[cybernck 400 1 Cars]

yes - mine .

 

 

it's a T16 though, don't know if the hubs on the mi16 are the same (i guess they are),

but the calipers and 305mm discs are a straight fit! .

 

you do need at least 16" wheels with a lot of space for calipers though!

[Jer309GTi 3]

Ooh thats good news!

 

I did read somewhere (not sure if its true) that the 4x4 and 2wd Mi front hubs are different, but hopefully they are all the same.

 

Did you just take off the old discs and calipers and simply replace with the Brembo and 305mm's then?

[cybernck 400 1 Cars]

yep... i've had to make some L-shaped pipe extensions and get 20mm hubcentric spacers though.

 

but still, i'm not sure about the hubs... you would need to try it.

 

on 205 gti 1.9 hubs, they fit using 283x26 (pug 307) discs, but that's not what you want ideally, is it?

[lendl2 0]

What is best disc and pads complet for normal size 195/55 R15, and does it fit immediately. Are there big differences to standard braking.

 

Thanks in advance

[lendl2 0]

Best to use original discs and pads becuse of weight and fitment, and abs probably, is it so?

[welshpug 1,622]

ABS doesnt work off the disc or caliper, so you can upgrade all you want

 

not 100% on this but I think a gti6 setup fits, and if they dont I'm sure the 406 estate calipers and discs will

[cybernck 400 1 Cars]

306 setup doesn't fit but 406 V6 & 405 T16 283mm brakes should.

[lendl2 0]

Yes, but it is heavier for the wheels, so unsprung mass is higher, maybe same size but newer materials(model)

[Sloppy 0]

yup as cyberneck said the 406 v6/sri or even td setup fits the 405 there 2 sets at my local breakers so im off to get some next week end...

[Baz 421]

I had a set of GTi6 brakes on a 4bie, but they were badly fitted with washers etc.I think i read somewhere that Xantia discs are the right offset for fitting the brembo's to a 405?

[cybernck 400 1 Cars]

no... on a 405, at least mine, Brembo's fit straight on with their 305 mm discs.

[Baz 421]

But aren't T16's hub offset slightly different to Mi16's? Or is it just the wheels having a different offset giving a difference in track alone?

[B1ack_Mi16 67]

But aren't T16's hub offset slightly different to Mi16's? Or is it just the wheels having a different offset giving a difference in track alone?

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I'm sure a Sweede did put Brembos and the 305x28mm coupe discs straigt onto his 405 Mi16 with no problems at all.

 

If I didn't have too little spare time at the moment I could testfit my spare brembo set onto my 405 Mi16 but can't seem to do that before july.

 

Edit: regarding the unsprung weight. Sure the discs are heavier because of the extra size, but the calipers at least seem to be lighter than the cast iron standard calipers...

Edited June 6, 2007 by B1ack_Mi16

[Hilgie 16 2 Cars]

It's a straight fit with the 406 305mm discs on a 405.

 

On a 205/306 you'd need to use the 288mm Xant or 283mm 307 discs.

[XU10 0]

All 406 breaks wil fit with no problems on anny 405.

 

We fitted Brembo's on the 406 V6 Sedan.

En the old sedan breaks fitted now on te 405!

 

Nice 406 V6 sedan...

 

 

 

T16 rims

 

Original 15" mi16 rims

[Jer309GTi 3]

Nice pics, love those T16 wheels! Is it a standard Mi16 you have? Any other pics of it?

 

Welcome to the forum by the way. Could you please enter your location into your profile please

[welshpug 1,622]

they're not T16 rims, just V6 saloon rims

 

reminds me I must get round to trial fitting the 406 estate 283mm setup I have in the garage!

[XU10 0]

Not just "saloon rims" on the 406.

These are the 406 coupé 2.2 HDI rims (Hoggar Speedline - 7J × 16" ET 12).

 

And on the 405: original T16 Speedline's (6.5J × 16" ET19)

[KRISKARRERA 2 1 Cars]

they're not T16 rims

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The 2nd from last pic dude!

[Borntobewild 1]

We fitted Brembo's on the 406 V6 Sedan.

En the old sedan breaks fitted now on te 405!

 

I've seen those picutres somewhere... just can't remember ;-)

 

@Jer309GTi, its a chipped 2.0 SRI with brembo's and T16 rims

[XU10 0]

its a chipped 2.0 SRI with brembo's and T16 rims.

No, we fitted 2.2 HDiF coupé Brembo's on the 406 SV 3.0 (Ø 305mm),

the old 406 brakes fitted now on te 405 SRI! (Ø 283mm)

[rodionski 3 1 Cars]

Guys,

 

I am trying to fabricate the L-shaped pipe extensions to fit the 406 V6 brembos on a 405 Mi16.

Could you please advise on the sizes of the extensions needed for fabrication?

 

Many thanks indeed!!!!

 

 

[cammmy 1]

So the Brembo's definately do not fit under standard Mi rims?

 

What brakes would be a direct fit and would it be worth the upgrade? I was just thinking about getting uprated pads and fluid.

 

Ta

[XU10 0]

So the Brembo's definately do not fit under standard Mi rims?

 

What brakes would be a direct fit and would it be worth the upgrade? I was just thinking about getting uprated pads and fluid.

 

Ta

No, Brembo 4 pots calipers (Ø 305mm) does not fit under standard 15" Mi16 rims, 16" and ET12 is required.

 

406 saloon / break calipers (Ø 283mm) wil fit in 15" rims (ET20).