309 Beam On Your 205 Pics?

[Anthony 1,000]

How much negative camber will ZX arms give, and from what type of ZX should i find the arms?

1.2 degrees (compared to 0.5 degrees on a 205/309 beam), and all ZX's have the same rear arm geometry - Volcane and 16v models have rear disk brakes, whereas all other models have rear drums

[hodgy 0]

 

its the best mod ive done fitting a 309 beam, plus mine has group A solid mounts

[rex 1]

Here's mine with 16mm added extra. (note the dust )

 

Anybody got photo's with the GTi6 trailing arms on a 309 subframe? I've got GTi6 a subframe here in stock, but I've been told they look wierd on a 205 due to the extra length??

 

Regards, Rex

Edited May 21, 2008 by rex

[Guest Steen-S 309 GTI 16]

1.2 degrees (compared to 0.5 degrees on a 205/309 beam), and all ZX's have the same rear arm geometry - Volcane and 16v models have rear disk brakes, whereas all other models have rear drums

 

Thanks for info. I already have found a used ZX 1,8 16V rear beam, so now I have the parts to build the ultimate 309 beam for my 205 GTI 2,4 Mi16

 

 

The build of the car is not started, but all parts collected.

Edited May 26, 2008 by Steen-S 309 GTI 16

[Kennyb 0]

so whats the difference in width between the 309 beam and 205beam?

[BTM NL 0]

This is mine Pug 205 with 309 GTi rearbeam:

 

[andychalmers 0]

Has anybody used a 309 rear beam on a 205 rally car?

 

I need full suspension travel, so by looking at the pics this might not be possible.

 

Also does anyone know the lengths of 205 & 309 torsion bars? as have a few in my garage and not sure what there off.

Edited June 16, 2008 by andychalmers

[Guest Steen-S 309 GTI 16]

Also does anyone know the lengths of 205 & 309 torsion bars? as have a few in my garage and not sure what there off.

 

The 309 torsion bar is 1029mm. The 309 ARB is 1130mm.

[S13Nick 0]

completly changes the look of the back of the car, i love it

 

[tombo 0]

some of the pics look good, but...... what about actual handling aspects does it honestly make a noticable difference?

[pug_ham 240 3 Cars]

so whats the difference in width between the 309 beam and 205beam?

50mm in width & 1mm thicker torsion & antiroll bars as standard on the 309 beam compared to the 205 beam.

 

I've driven the same car with both the 205 & 309 front wishbones & beams on (with & without ZX arms). My car currently has all 205 wishbones & beam again now with BBM group A mounts, 20mm tb's & a 24mm arb. I prefer this to the 309 beam which had the same sized bars that was fitted previously.

 

Overall grip & turn in feels better, even more planted than it did with the 309 bits on.

 

Once I've built my next trackday car I'll get the suspension geometry set up properly again like I did when fitting the 205 stuff back onto my car this time but I won't really be able to give a true comparison because it'll be a lot more modified with eccentric top mounts etc so much more adjustable to begin with.

 

Graham.

[SurGie 54]

1.2 degrees (compared to 0.5 degrees on a 205/309 beam), and all ZX's have the same rear arm geometry - Volcane and 16v models have rear disk brakes, whereas all other models have rear drums

 

 

Hi sorry to but in but i have a ZX haynes manual and in the suspension section it

says the rear beam has only -1 degrees of camber and the 309 16 v goodwood 1 has over -1.2 negative camber.

[taylorspug 7]

The book on the ZX arms says 1 degree alot of the time, but when you actually get them on the car they come up around 1.2 degrees. Also 309 16v arms have alot of toe in aswell which IMO isnt desireable, especially with a 309 beam, as it dulls the turn in and generally makes the car understeer.

[SurGie 54]

The book on the ZX arms says 1 degree alot of the time, but when you actually get them on the car they come up around 1.2 degrees. Also 309 16v arms have alot of toe in aswell which IMO isnt desireable, especially with a 309 beam, as it dulls the turn in and generally makes the car understeer.

 

 

Ok cool, so iv got the right set up then.

what do you mean by IMO??

Do you by any chance know if i put ZX arms on a 205 beam make it much better at cornering in an out.

 

Thanks

[Baz 421]

Ok cool, so iv got the right set up then.

what do you mean by IMO??

Do you by any chance know if i put ZX arms on a 205 beam make it much better at cornering in an out.

 

Thanks

 

In My Opinion.

 

Do a search please, it's all been covered before. Some in this thread.

[taylorspug 7]

Yes as Baz has said try a search, the ZX arms on 205 beam came up specifically in a thread not that long ago.

[SurGie 54]

Yes as Baz has said try a search, the ZX arms on 205 beam came up specifically in a thread not that long ago.

 

 

Ok thanks will do