[project] Tora Tora Tora 309

[oli-pug 6 2 Cars]

That looks ace. Pretty much the perfect fwd track car in my eyes

[Batfink 201]

Nice to see this finally finished

[Choppered 0]

Nice to see the little update and well done on getting it finished bet its an animal

[edbar 6]

Awesome! Although I couldnt live with a differant marque engine under the bonnet, but thats just me. K20 are immense have a few mates with civics who plan to fit them, even though the b16/18 seems so good!

[Sandy 189]

I'd make a strong case for Honda being the best petrol engine designers/manufacturers personally and the gearbox on this one is flippin awesome too. I'll use an EW in preference in my own car, because it's easier, but I don't think there's any shame in trying to bring one of the best engines together with one of the best chassis'

[kyepan 291]

i would really like to see a video of this!

[mikeygulley 19 1 Cars]

That looks awesome! Good job!

[edbar 6]

I'd make a strong case for Honda being the best petrol engine designers/manufacturers personally and the gearbox on this one is flippin awesome too. I'll use an EW in preference in my own car, because it's easier, but I don't think there's any shame in trying to bring one of the best engines together with one of the best chassis'

 

 

Would have to agree that the engines are superb, like i say a few mates run the b-series and they are awesome out of the box,my one mate has a b16 so thats an 80's-90s 1.6 16v vtec that has 170bhp with a remap, exhaust and manifold, integra type r induction kit. it is awesome!

I totally get the idea behind the project and think it is amazing, but as a personall thing i cant get on with inter marque swaps, i never liked mk2 escorts with xe's. Just one of my weird hang ups. Calm down Sandy you still rock!

[Sandy 189]

LoL, yeah, I'm quite into XE Escorts too.... kick the ass out of the Ford engined ones, inc Duratec. It's kind of a Cosworth engine anyway.

[stu8v 68 1 Cars]

LoL, yeah, I'm quite into XE Escorts too.... kick the ass out of the Ford engined ones, inc Duratec. It's kind of a Cosworth engine anyway.

 

Millington diamond thats a must in a mk2

[Sandy 189]

My loyalties lie elsewhere, I map JRE's engines, the ones that beat Millingtons! Similar power, but much more refined.

[spikster 0]

This looks great, it is very similar to mine, i have a 205GTI with a DC5 Integra engine in.

 

It belonged to RavyDavy who has posted on here, mine also runs a DTA ECU, its a shame your not closer Sandy as i would like to have the car remapped-put on the roller to see what its putting out.

 

These engines love to rev andpull really well in such a small light car, i was at Blyton a few weeks ago and was following a Mitsubishi Evo that was highly tuned, it couldn't shake me, even with the clouds of blake smoke he was putting out.

 

Would love to see this on the track, when is your first outting and where?

 

Andy

 

[Sam 4]

Is that your place Sandy? Do you have both garages now? It's looking awesome btw I bet it goes well...

[Sandy 189]

I hire the rollers, the garage is Atters' place.

 

My loyalties lie elsewhere, I map JRE's engines, the ones that beat Millingtons! Similar power, but much more refined.

 

Further more on this, we did a freshly rebuilt Millington 2.5 on the dyno today, no more power/torque than the 2.4/2.5 JRE "Vauxhalls" (as has been reported on many rolling roads) and much grumpier at part throttle, the only really noticeable difference is slightly lower inertia, to be expected being more oversquare. Not worth another £10000 over the JRE 2.5 I'd say. Interesting job to do.

[welshpug 1,622]

certainly do notice when one (millingotn) is caught off cam, rear end of the cars tend to just kick out sideways when they come alive

 

 

any clips of the 309 yet?

[Atters 0]

more pics here:

 

http://s279.photobucket.com/albums/kk153/Action_moog/Project%20309/

[feb 47]

Amazing car and shame you are selling it!

Do you have any pics of the rear turreted setup (what the axle looks from below/rear) apart from this?

Edited August 24, 2011 by feb

[Batfink 201]

It attaches to the stub axle end. Nothing fancy but does the job spot on Colin modifies the stub axle to have the lower bracket for the coilover.

[feb 47]

If I understand correctly does that mean no torsion bars are used anymore?

[Batfink 201]

Colin somehow disconnects them but they stay in place. My setup removed them altogether but I dont know how.

[kyepan 291]

still want a video of the sound!

[qwerty 9]

I hire the rollers, the garage is Atters' place.

 

 

 

Further more on this, we did a freshly rebuilt Millington 2.5 on the dyno today, no more power/torque than the 2.4/2.5 JRE "Vauxhalls" (as has been reported on many rolling roads) and much grumpier at part throttle, the only really noticeable difference is slightly lower inertia, to be expected being more oversquare. Not worth another £10000 over the JRE 2.5 I'd say. Interesting job to do.

 

This was at the Olivers mount hill climb earlier this, apparently 27k spent on engine/ sequential box install lol

 

 

[Sandy 189]

Full house Millington on it's own is £30k+!

 

Here are a couple of the JRE engines when we were testing a few weeks back, both mapped by me:

 

2.5 Vauxhall:

 

2.5 Alloy block YB (essentially what a Millington is):

[black lad 0]

Full house Millington on it's own is £30k+!

 

Here are a couple of the JRE engines when we were testing a few weeks back, both mapped by me:

 

2.5 Vauxhall:

 

2.5 Alloy block YB (essentially what a Millington is):

I have lost track of the amount of engines Roy Millington has sold into ireland in the last few years nearly all for mk2s, strange no one goes for the 2.5 jre because jr has plenty of sucessful 2.0 red tops here?

[Sandy 189]

Certainly alot more of John's 2.0 litres over there, but there are still many 2.5s. Most of the Channel Island and Scottish customers seem to have gone over to the 2.5s now. It's the age old thing that many people regard the Millington to be a better engine, for no good reason other than proliferation really! Alot of people also regard the XE as a brand deviant engine, but the Millington as a Ford, there's about the same amount of Ford in either! We've been doing alot of Duratec development over the last year and the demand seems strong for them. One of the cars running a JRE Duratec is a 4WD MG ZR, to replace the Judd K-series they apparently had heaps of trouble with before. I saw it got an overall stage win and was beating most of the WRCs until a drive shaft failure at Wexford.