Guest dakin Posted March 7, 2008 Hi, headgasket on my rallye 1.4 has just gone. I've been thinking of an engine upgrade for awhile and now seems to be the perfect opportunity. I was wondering how easy it is to put a 1.6 gti engine in to my car? Are all mounts etc the same? How about the wiring? Thanks, Tom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M_R_205 5 1 Cars Posted March 7, 2008 (edited) it is posible and it is rather easy but it takes fair bit of time and effort, you will need to replace a fair bit of the loom to acomodate the ECU, change the fuel tank as to run the leccy fuel pump, mounts are probably the same (unless your car is very early) will need a new exhaust and id recomend a gti front suspension and brake set up to accomodate the extra weight, if you are handy and have the time go for it Edited March 7, 2008 by M_R_205 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Fenton 1,562 Posted March 7, 2008 Unless you are especially attached to your Rallye, I'd just go and buy yourself a 205 GTI 1.6, job done, and far less hassle. Plus if you repair the headgasket I reckon the Rallye is worth more with its proper engine in than with a 1.6 XU in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BERTMAN 40 1 Cars Posted March 10, 2008 ull need, a Gti subframe to accomodate the linkages for the gearbox too... so that means a whole GTi front set up, petrol tank, and ECU/wiring loom too as said before... so if your going to do it you mayas well put a 1.9 or Mi lump in there haha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallyeluke 0 Posted March 10, 2008 put a 16v 106 gti/vts engine in there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaveW 6 Posted March 10, 2008 Try to find a xs engine and box will make the rallye loads better as its lighter and the box is short which makes it very fun to drive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dakin Posted March 13, 2008 Yea think i will look for a xs engine, i hadn't thought of that. I'm guessing it will be simple to fit too? Thanks for the replies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M_R_205 5 1 Cars Posted March 13, 2008 (edited) An xs engine into a rallye will be dead easy as there almost identical, im soon (hopefuly) going to be putting an mi16 into an xs as iv managed to get my hand on a VGC non sunroof shel for pennies, im going to be starting a project page when i get the shell if you interested in watching the progress... EDIT: just thought, if i get the car your welcome to the engine!! Edited March 13, 2008 by M_R_205 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dakin Posted March 15, 2008 Yea the project would be interesting to see. I'll pm you about the engine mate, thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taylorspug 7 Posted March 15, 2008 Ive just wired up a GTI engine into an XS for someone (dont really see the point tbh, but thats just me!). Its not a hard job, but so much stuff is different that you will pretty much need a complete GTI donor car to make it work properly, ie engine, gear linkages, tank and pump, rad, hoses, interior loom for guages etc. Id go with the xs engine personally, a good one will get down the road just as good as a 1600 GTI anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dakin Posted March 16, 2008 I've decided against the gti engine now as it seems too much hassle for what its worth. Looks liken i'll be going down the xs route. Just a quick one but will the 106 rallye engine go in? The 1300 s1 one? These seem more readily available than the xs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danpug 1 Posted March 16, 2008 It will do with a couple of modifications but you'll have to convert to injection, the same hassle as going for the xu engine really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jrod 7 Posted March 16, 2008 If you are going to do the hassle of a 1.3 rallye engien you may aswell go for a 16v TU Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTI6BOY 29 Posted May 6, 2008 I have heard you have to also do some modifications to get the gti subframe to fit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jrod 7 Posted May 6, 2008 Just need to cut the gear post off the TU one and weld it onto the gti subframe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casanova 0 Posted May 7, 2008 Dropping an XS engine in can be done in a few hours and will cost about 100 quid max, and you won't regret it. Any of the other options mentioned will be an order of magnitude more time, hassle and money. Why not see if you can get a go in an XS to see if you like it? The revvy, low-geared power delivery is great fun, which is just as important as the actual power output IMO. § Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTI6BOY 29 Posted May 7, 2008 i already have a 6 engine getting taking out my cti Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bren_1.3 1 Posted May 7, 2008 i agree with Tom Fenton.. if its a nice shell with all the decals then just sort the headgasket and be done. they wil be worth some money soon.. i have a K reg yellow rallye that has been garaged for some time now, with near perfect original cloth seats, im sure it will be worth its weight in gold when and if i eventually sell it. depends how much of a purist you are i suppose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
