How Can I Tell Which Gearbox I Have?

[Atari Boy 11]

I have been given a 1.9 gearbox and I think it is a BE1 type. Is there a way of confirming this?

It is off the car so not as straight forward as it could be?

 

Thanks

 

Jonny

[philfingers 5]

Both BE1 and BE3 have two sort of selectors sticking out the back of the box. On a BE1 both are flat type with a ball joint on. On a be3 on of these is like a 10 to 12mm round bar with a 90deg bend in it, with the ball formed on the end.

BE1 will have a hole for the reverse cable, on a BE3 that same hole is a breather.

BE3 has a shaft for the clutch cable, sticks out the top. BE1 sort of sticks out of the box more so to the front.

Best you post a picture and we can tell you.

[jord294 87]

imo, i think the easiest way to tell between be1 and be3 gearbox, is by looking at the clutch fork

 

if the fork which holds the clutch release bearing is combined on a vertical bar, it is be3

 

if the fork for the clutch release bearing is a a plate pivoting through the side of the gearbox, it's a be1

Edited December 2, 2007 by jord294

[philfingers 5]

imo, i think the easiest way to tell between be1 and be3 gearbox, is by looking at the clutch fork

 

if the fork which holds the clutch release bearing is combined on a vertical bar, it is be3

 

if the fork for the clutch release bearing is a a plate pivoting through the side of the gearbox, it's a be1

 

Yes, good simple explanation! I can tell by looking but not too easy at putting it into words!

[welshpug 1,622]

IMO the easiest way is to clean the bugger and look at the markings!

 

sont forget that a lot of BE1 and BE3 bell-housings are identical, so its the main body of the box you need to look at.

 

have a play with the selectors, if you find 3 gears one side and 3 t'other its a BE3, 4 on one side and 2 t'other its a be1

[Atari Boy 11]

Some pictures might help.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks everyone, what would Rolf Harris say 'can you tell what it is yet?'

[welshpug 1,622]

its a BE1

 

hasnt got TDC sensor mounting either

Edited December 2, 2007 by welshpug

[Atari Boy 11]

Great thanks WelshPug.

[jord294 87]

the hole in the side of the gearbox tells you it's a be1

[welshpug 1,622]

naah, BE4's have that hole!!!

[jord294 87]

which gti had the be4 gearbox ?

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

And it's not a 1.9 box, Could be a Derv or 1.6 GTi as the selectors are bolt on which stoped around early 1986

So you might want to amend your ebay add

Edited December 2, 2007 by Miles

[Atari Boy 11]

Thanks Miles, I was told otherwise.

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

I know what you mean, the amount of engine's and boxes I;ve had which have been sold to people as 'X' and turns out to be complete rubbish always amazes me, but if your not 100% on the subject you can see why really as it's not easy to find out what it is unless it's stripped