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Problems Starting Up :(

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Guest KayMarie

My car has problems starting it up a lot, especially from cold, turning over and over but not catching on. Can anyone give me advice as to what i can do/look at to solve this? Its a 106 XSi.

 

I know its a 12 year old car and will be a little slower then most but still, i don't think it should be doing it as much as it actually is.

 

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Guest cknotty

A friend of mine has a 1.4 XSi, which always used to struggle to start. Turned out the fuel pump was on the way out as it finally packed up on a rally and completely cut out. After the replacement one went in, the car started much better after that.

 

Other suggestions could be a duff coil pack giving a poor spark, or ECU temp sender perhaps?

 

Hope this helps.

 

Chris

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Casanova

Worth inspecting the plugs and leads too; if they're past it they're not expensive to renew.

 

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Enfield

If the spark plugs and leads haven't been changed I would change those first as they're probably the cheapest and easiest to do.

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Guest KayMarie

Soark plugs were changed but i'm not sure about HT leads, i'l have a look there.

 

Also, someone on another site said i should try leaving it sat priming for a little bit before i turn it on, which i did and it reduced it a little. I'l try leaving it primin for a little longer today and see what happens....

 

If leaving it longer makes it start up quicker, what do you think the problem could be?

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Guest cknotty

That's strange because my 1.4 doesn't prime at all. The fuel pump only starts running when the ECU receives a signal from the crank sensor to tell it that the engine is turning. Unless the 1.6 system is different of course.

 

I still think this sounds like fuel pressure issues. Either your fuel pump is starting to go, or they may be some fuel leakage somewhere.

 

How old are the fuel feed/return hoses to the fuel rail? Mine were the original ones, and started to look a little past their best. Then I found there was a pinhole leak in the return hose, spraying fuel everywhere! :D This led to the fuel pressure in the system being lost when the car was off, and consequently it took a few turns to build up pressure again. Have since replaced them with some lengths of high pressure fuel hose, and it has been fine since. :blink:

 

Chris

 

EDIT: 100th post: woo! :D

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number2301

Update on this, we also find that giving it a little throttle starts it up straight away, sound like a fuel pump thing? I'll try have a look at the fuel lines.

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djinuk

my 19 year old xs struggles to start so i just pump the throttle 3 times before starting and catch it then hold it at 2 for \5 secs. all is good then :wub:

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Guest KayMarie

Yeah, i understand that its old and may need an extra boost but its annoying and i want it fixed :wub:

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djinuk

i wouldnt worry about it , its a old car and you can get away with it. :wub:

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Guest KayMarie

Well, after trying to leave it priming again to see if it helped, it doesn't. So the next time I started it, i pumped the accelorator a couple of times and it started pretty much straight away...

 

I know some people who just do this as ritual now on their older cars but does thisa indicate something that i can look at and fix? :)

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Guest cknotty

All I can say is that it sounds really strange, as all it does is open and close the throttle butterfly. Perhaps you could take it all out and give it a really good clean out and lubricate the throttle return spring. Maybe have a look the thottle position sensor too?

 

Chris

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Guest KayMarie

I'm gonna give everything a good going over on Friday as its my day off. See what we find :lol:

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number2301

It also kicks out a load of bluish smoke when you pump the throttle before starting it, not at any other time though.

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