Spiky 37 Posted January 14, 2007 are they available for the pug???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Powers 13 Posted January 14, 2007 Yes, there are two types, one shares the original design with rose joints and the other is tubular with rose joints. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spiky 37 Posted January 14, 2007 do you know where to get some??? any webistes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ahl 4 Posted January 14, 2007 Have you tried a search? There were loads of topics on this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nick 3 Posted January 14, 2007 Search for "adjustable wishbones" loads of topics. Nick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
205wrc 16 Posted January 14, 2007 Try these. If you don't like the prices, pm me !! http://www.wmmotorsport.com/acatalog/Bottom_Arms.html http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Peugeot-205-GTI-Rose...2QQcmdZViewItem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spiky 37 Posted January 14, 2007 omg , did think they would that much Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bren_1.3 1 Posted January 16, 2007 (edited) AB motorsport charge silly money, you can have them made for 300 i reckon. apparantly the joint itself is roughly 100 pounds so what the other 385 quid is for god only knows. (just looked at the WMMS site and its £105.75) Likewise the modified pedal boxes that AB sell at 300 + pounds on an exchange basis are just extortionate. you can buy all the parts to build one yourself from compbrake, have the necessary machining and welding done by someone else, and still have change from 250 quid for a set of uprated pads!!! how much do you think an engineering firm would charge you if you gave them an old wishbone with the balljoint cut out, and a M20 threaded tube of suitable properties and said "braze/weld them together please at such and such an angle?".......definately not 385 squid. slight rant over... they do crop up from time to time on ebay and generally fetch about 250. why not try compbrake? they might have something. voila...half the price Edited January 16, 2007 by brens_1.9_wide_arch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rippthrough 98 Posted January 16, 2007 £55 quid for a bolt! You could have the pair, the nuts and the spacers in titanium for that! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rik 0 Posted January 18, 2007 (edited) The bolts are the hard bit as they require a bit of machining! i made mine myself - its very easy. BIG PIC Rik Edited January 18, 2007 by Rik Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricdat 0 Posted January 20, 2007 The bolts are the hard bit as they require a bit of machining! i made mine myself - its very easy. Errrm .... are you saying, "it is very easy to modify a wishbone - the end might break off though"? That's what the picture looks like. As for the rear trailing arm, I don't know them well enough - what have you done to that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sam 4 Posted January 20, 2007 Try these. If you don't like the prices, pm me !! http://www.wmmotorsport.com/acatalog/Bottom_Arms.html http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Peugeot-205-GTI-Rose...2QQcmdZViewItem What an absolute bump They don't even have bearings on the subframe mounts!! You'd expect that for 500 nicker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bren_1.3 1 Posted January 20, 2007 Errrm .... are you saying, "it is very easy to modify a wishbone - the end might break off though"? That's what the picture looks like. As for the rear trailing arm, I don't know them well enough - what have you done to that? pray tell me the difference between riks and AB and west midlands adjustable arms? apart from the probable 300 pounds difference? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rik 0 Posted January 20, 2007 Nah the weld is strong as an Ox! And if you think everytime theres a load put on the wheel the wishbone will move up with the suspension strut thus taking kost of the load away from the end of the wishbone. Rik Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
205wrc 16 Posted January 20, 2007 What an absolute bump They don't even have bearings on the subframe mounts!! You'd expect that for 500 nicker. Unless the car is used purely for track use, you really don't want rose joints on the subframe mounts as then you will have no "give" at all in the suspension. You need something in the suspension somewhere to absorb the impact otherwise every bump is going to come up through the steering and the whole car will shake itself to bits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricdat 0 Posted January 20, 2007 Nah the weld is strong as an Ox! Rik I've gone back to your big pic again - I misinterpreted the photo before; now I can see the (threaded) sleeve and welds! I agree on the strength of a weld like that - they will have very little stress. Is the rear swingarm modified? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sutol 0 Posted January 20, 2007 £55 quid for a bolt! You could have the pair, the nuts and the spacers in titanium for that! Likewise the rosejoints I'm going to look at where I used to buy mine from and see how much they have gone up. I'll post tomorrow, I'm sure they are not £100+ each....far from it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sam 4 Posted January 21, 2007 Unless the car is used purely for track use, you really don't want rose joints on the subframe mounts as then you will have no "give" at all in the suspension. You need something in the suspension somewhere to absorb the impact otherwise every bump is going to come up through the steering and the whole car will shake itself to bits. So less money should be charged, 250 is fair I guess. Sam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
205wrc 16 Posted January 21, 2007 I'd say £300 - £350. The rose joints that are used are'nt cheap. I paid £160 for a pair last time, and that was about two years ago. They are quite a difficult size to get hold of - M20 thread x 16mm hole. The cheapest I can find at the moment are £94 each inc vat. If you make the arms yourself, then they can be a lot cheaper, but if you get a local engineer to do them for you, then you could be looking at £70 - £80 for a pair of bolts, four top hat spacers, four lock nuts - two on the bolts and two on the rose joints, and a pair of threaded tubes to weld into the arms. Then the arms have to be cut and machined out to accept the threaded tubes, and then welded in position, not by a mig welder, but by using disimilar metal rods and an arc welder as you will be welding steel to cast. If you use new arms, then add £80 for a pair, or £20 for a set of new bushes if using old ones. 2 arms - £80 2 Rose joints - £188 Machining Work £80 (bolts, spacers etc) Giving you a grand total of £348 (or £288 if you use old arms and buy new bushes) But like I said, they can be a lot cheaper if you do them yourself. The last pair I sold went for £360 inc carriage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taylorspug 7 Posted January 21, 2007 You need something in the suspension somewhere to absorb the impact otherwise every bump is going to come up through the steering and the whole car will shake itself to bits. Funny, i could have sworn that big tubular assembly with the spring attached to it did this job fairly well! And before you go into some long winded explanation in the ways of suspension etc, i know what you mean, its a joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
