What Kind Of Engine Is This?

[Guest TSL 333]

I bought my MY88 (F) Peugeot 205 1.6 GTI in February this year and the previous owner claimed it has a 1.9 GTI engine upgrade. So, from the attached photograph, what do you guys think? What size and what year? To be fair, the car feels like a 1.9 GTI but I cannot be sure...................

 

[Jonmurgie 2]

Easy way to tell is what RPM your doing at 70mph... unless the 'box has been swapped!

 

Short of an engine number I don't think there is an obvious difference from a glance at the engine bay...

[M3Evo 0]

I always get this wrong, but I think that's an Xu10 engine?

 

Don't think it really belongs in there (from the factory anyway) but if the insurance has been told, who cares?!

[Ryan 99]

Isn't that the 105bhp 1.9 from the 405 SRI/BX GTI?

 

Definatly NOT a 1.9 GTI engine!

[Guest TSL 333]

I always get this wrong, but I think that's an Xu10 engine?

 

Don't think it really belongs in there (from the factory anyway) but if the insurance has been told, who cares?!

 

Yeah, I am confused now!!!

 

Isn't that the 105bhp 1.9 from the 405 SRI/BX GTI?

 

Strange, the car passed a Golf GTI at knockhill yestarday and has previously passed an RS1800i Fiesta at the same place so I guess it's not the standard 1.6 GTI?

 

No comment about the insurance company..........

Edited April 17, 2006 by TSL 333

[d-9 0]

Its definitly the inlet manifold from a 1.9 BX or 405, however it could be a 1.9 or 1.6 205 engine with a different inlet manifold (they are interchangeable remember). However Id say thats pretty unlikely as Ive never heard of anyone fitting that inlet onto a 205, so chances are its the complete engine from a BX. I forget what power it makes iirc its less than a 1.9 205 but more torque. Do a search for 405 SRI and you should find out more.

[KRISKARRERA 2 1 Cars]

Isn't that the 105bhp 1.9 from the 405 SRI/BX GTI?

105bhp??! Tut tut It's 125bhp. Better engine than the GTi.

[d-9 0]

105bhp??! Tut tut It's 125bhp. Better engine than the GTi.

 

 

Is it? really? cool, time to go rip a 405 apart

[KRISKARRERA 2 1 Cars]

I don't mind, go ahead.

[d-9 0]

awww no fun

 

so anyway, how is it better than the 205 engine?

[richsmells 2]

A little search returned this thread...

 

http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?s...is+this+an+mi16

[Guest TSL 333]

105bhp??! Tut tut It's 125bhp. Better engine than the GTi.

 

Guys, this is great news!!!

 

So I have a 405 SRI/ Citreon BX engine with 125 bhp with better torque than a 1.9 GTI then?

 

Incidentally, what does a 1.9 GTI make?

[d-9 0]

book figure for a 1.9gti is 130ps or 128bhp. in reality most make 120ish.

 

Wonder what one of those inlet manis on a normal 205 engine would be like, coz it looks like its got really long runners compared to standard.

[Anthony 1,000]

Wonder what one of those inlet manis on a normal 205 engine would be like, coz it looks like its got really long runners compared to standard.

Won't fit AFAIK

[Guest TSL 333]

Right, I am now very curious, there is a Citreon BX 19 GTI & a Peugeot 405 1.9 GTI/ Peugeot 405 1.8 1.8 SRI

 

http://www.globalcar.com/datasheet/Peugeot...ot4051.9SRi.htm

 

So which one is it; the 1.9 GTI I assume?

[Anthony 1,000]

http://www.globalcar.com/datasheet/Peugeot...ot4051.9SRi.htm

That's the correct one - 405 SRi (which should be the same engine as a Citroen BX GTi 8v)

[Guest TSL 333]

Thanks Anthony.

 

Is it definately not the Citreon one then? I see that the Citreon one has slightly more torque and the performance statistics vary significantly.

 

i.e it is, as you say, definately the 405 SRI 1.9 engine @ 125bhp

[d-9 0]

Could well be the citroen one, In my travels round the scrapyards Ive certainly seen a lot more of those in BXs than in 405s.

 

Doubt theres any difference, just some numpty cant type the data into the spreadsheet properly.

[Guest TSL 333]

Well, I am quite chuffed; at the end of the day, I appear to have a 1.9 engine with more torque than the 1.9 GTI (albeit with slightly less BHP.) This could even explain why some of my dials appear to give bizzare (low readings) as I assume the sensors will be different on each model? In conclusion, it is a fast wee car that shows up a few other cars that should be faster than a 1.6 GTI!!!!!!!!!!!!! I assume that the exhaust manifold would be off the donor car rather than the origional 1.6 GTI (it has a hairline crack?

[Anthony 1,000]

Exhaust manifolds are the same.

 

Both the 405 SRi and BX GTi 8v have identical engines as far as I'm aware.

 

There are two different engine codes for that engine:

• D6A (XU9J2) which was the earlier (87-90) engine that had Jetronic management
  
• D6D (XU9J2) which was the later (90-92) engine that had Motronic management
  

I suspect yours will be a D6A unless someone's swapped the thermostat housing over.

[KRISKARRERA 2 1 Cars]

That site is wrong, 0-60 was 9.4.

[Guest TSL 333]

Even better then, considering how light the 205 is by comparison!!!

[Ahl 4]

Hmm, if I was you I'd be worried that I had an engine that didn't look like the original 1.6, depending on what your insurance company thinks of course.

[Guest TSL 333]

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