Immobiliser

[Sanchez 0]

Just got my 205 GTI and I'm not about to leave it on the road without an immobiliser. I've searched the forum and the Toad i606(?) comes recommended but sadly I don't have that much cash spare right now. Is it possible to get a cat 2 immobiliser fitted for around £100 and if so which manufacturer/model should I go for? Obviously I would only need something to stop someone from getting an easy ride home but I wouldn't want it to be a complete waste of money. Can anyone help?

 

Thanks

 

Daniel.

Edited January 25, 2006 by Sanchez

[TEKNOPUG 3]

Fitting them is easy. Unfortunately the insurers will want a "certified" fitter and I'll guarantee that they'll do a crappy bodge job for a hundred quid.

 

I wouldn't bother with an alarm, instead, look for one with a transponder (such as Cobra). Clifford suck!!!!

[M3Evo 0]

Got some Cobra thing fitted to my car for about £200 which is a cat2.

[SamGTi 0]

IIRC my Toad Powerkey (cat 2) cost me just over £200 to be supplied and fitted and I have never had any problems with it (yet).

[boombang 2]

I paid £120 fitted with certificate for my Cat 2 Sigma transponder immob (exactly the same as the Toad Powerkey).

 

The fitter even removed all the old Clifford wiring that was left when the old alarm was taken out.

 

Very tidy job and worked perfectly.

 

I had the option of an immob with a key thing to disarm for £100 - but the extra £20 was well worth it.

 

This was up in North Wales though.

[M@tt 77]

jacobs53 was selling a toad Ai606 recently for £50 he might still have it

http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?s...c=51972&hl=toad

or

http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?s...c=51491&hl=toad

[Sanchez 0]

Thanks for all of the replies. I've booked the car in to have an immobiliser fitted on Monday. It's only a simple Laserline one but if it stops someone from taking the car as an easy ride home (and also brough my premium down by £100) it will do!

[iety2004 0]

Direct line wouldn't insure me unless i had a security device fitted,

 

luckly the car cam with a Toad Laser key and certificate, so impaying 700 fully comp, dead chuffed

 

dont know how old the alarm is, or how good it is in comparison, but i like it.

 

cheers

 

gareth

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

Just make sure who ever fit's it does it some else bar the ignition cables as these take 2sec's to unplug and bypass

[GLPoomobile 958]

Take the steering wheel off. It's free and is a much better visual deterent to a flashing LED.

 

Would be a bummer if there was a TWOCer walking around with a 205 steering wheel and socket set, though!

[iety2004 0]

You can buy those snapp off steering wheels, mabe a bit easier than taking the bolt off everytime u leave the car?

[GLPoomobile 958]

You can buy those snapp off steering wheels, mabe a bit easier than taking the bolt off everytime u leave the car?

 

Tell me about it!

 

Have wanted one for ages, but it means buying a wheel, a boss, and a snap off. Even if I get a wheel and boss 2nd hand I still have to pay £100+ for the snap off (I have never seen them 2nd hand) so I've been too tight to stump up for it.

 

It's actually not that much of a hassle taking the wheel off and refitting it every day, but I leave my GTi badge off for convenience, which doesn't look very nice.

[jonD6B 0]

There was a Demon Tweeks snap off boss for a 205 on ebay the other week for £19.99 brand new. Might be worth a look if it's still there somewhere. You will need an after market steering wheel though.

 

IMO anyone who knows anything about boosting cars will have it away before you get a chance to shout " OI you little sh.....". Laserline (depending on model) are relatively easy to bypass by bridging the yellow and another wire very close to it. (Won't tell you which one in case there are any Gone in sixty seconds wannabes on here). But it take about 6 seconds once the bonnet is open.

 

If it was me I would also wire in a hidden switch in the car that interupts the low tension circuit on coil. I did this on a MK2 Golf and forgot to tell the VW dealer when I dropped it off for a service. They had it the whole day and when I returned to pick it up at 5.30 they were still trying to start it! Costs about 70 pence and 15 mins. to do.

[Sanchez 0]

I see you point but in all honesty what kind of car thief if going to boost a 1989 G registered Peugeot 205 1.6 GTI? Lovely cars I know but certainly no 'Elenor'

[jonD6B 0]

My brother has had his 1.6 Mk3 Escort nicked, end of story! (Serves him right for driving a pile of crap in the first place though).

 

These robbing little sh**s will nick anything. You have to remember that the older the car the easier it is to pinch. Car manafacturers have learnt their lessons over the years improving car security stacks. If I'm right in thinking, cars such as the Porsche 944 didn't have any security at all as standard.

[jont 0]

Car manafacturers have learnt their lessons over the years improving car security stacks.

Yup - to the point that it's now easier to break into most houses than a modern car. So theives will now break into the house and nick the keys. From their point of view it also means theres no visible damage to the car.

[GLPoomobile 958]

Yes, any good car thief will be away with your car in little time no matter what you do. Which is exactly why I take my steering wheel off. Unless they plan on returning with a suitable wheel or just driving off in a straight line (always cars parked in front and behind me, though) then they are not going to get far. And is your common thief going to go to all the trouble to get a steering wheel so that they can steel and old 205GTi, which also has an alarm and an immobiliser fitted?

 

To mind the answer is no, and that is why I go to the hassle of removing my wheel. It's a visual deterent. Thieves know that they can overcome most security devices, but if they see the steering wheel is missing then they'll probably move on to the next easy target.

 

Anyway, back on topic. You could also wire in a kill swict to the fuel pump. I would have thought it would be pretty easy to do and you could mount the switch in one of the rear ash trays.

 

As for immobilisers being eay to bypass, I'm rubbish with electrics so don;t understand it all, but how can a Cat 2 immobiliser achieve Cat 2 status if it's so easy to bypass?

[jonD6B 0]

[As for immobilisers being eay to bypass, I'm rubbish with electrics so don;t understand it all, but how can a Cat 2 immobiliser achieve Cat 2 status if it's so easy to bypass?]

 

Cat 2 has nothing to do with the quality of the system it is simply the category to which the system falls under. In this case it is simply an immobiliser where as Cat 1 refers to an alarm and immobiliser. Thatchum are the safety body that over looks car security. The quality of each alarm is down to manafacturer and model specification. I should read an comparing report before seperating with your dollar.

[GLPoomobile 958]

I understand that.

 

But I thought that to be Thatcham approved they have to immobilise two seperate circuits and have to have at least two parts of trim removed to gain access, or some old bollocks like that.

 

Therefore, it is not an issue of how good the product is, more that it has to be difficult to actually bypass it.

 

So if I was to take the comments I have read on the forum literally, then Thatcham Cat 2 approval for immobilisers is not worth the change in my pocket (which is nowt).

[jonD6B 0]

No, you're right that Thatchum approve certain model types. Sorry I meant to add that in the part where I wrote depending on model type. The point I was trying to make was that I personally don't think any type of alarm/immobiliser is going to stop anyone who knows what they're doing who wants your car therefore read investigated findings on what is best for the money because then you know that you made the best choice when buying.