Turning a 205 1.9 into a Tolman Edition

[Big_Wak 2]

All,

 

First post here, go easy on me for diving straight in with such a topic

 

some will love this..... some will not..... some will question generally

 

Donor car is a Ph2 1.9 GTI pre-cat.

 

Info to be added in the coming days, weeks and months

 

Mods - feel free to move as required

[Leslie green 71]

Welcome are you making a Tolman rep? 

[Big_Wak 2]

Nope, not a Tolman rep but an actual Tolman Edition.

 

Donor car sourced and in a few weeks it will be heading to Tolman....

 

 

[SRDT 129]

Will it get the full treatment with digital dash and 16v head?

[DamirGTI 299]

35 minutes ago, SRDT said:

16v head?

 

Includes just the 16v head (on 8v block) or full 16v conversion ?

 

D

[Big_Wak 2]

Final detailed spec to be thrashed out but very much like the Tolman cars from the press releases in 2022 but no 16V head, i'll keep it original of sorts.

 

I've opted for the LSD and big brake kit also.

 

I'll retain the original cars colour too.

 

Engine will be a more worked on example of the 8V original with better cams and headwork - still to be finalised with Tolman.

 

 

[SRDT 129]

 

"We've not  transplanted a whole engine, we've used the very latest cylinder head"

 

It's a RS style head with RS intake manifold. There is a picture from a mockup stage with a RS head and 3d printed parts:

The custom turbo 16 style cam cover is pretty neat. The very first 16v conversions used a turbo 16 head as the XU9J4 didn't exist yet.

[jord294 75]

12 hours ago, Big_Wak said:

Nope, not a Tolman rep but an actual Tolman Edition.

 

Donor car sourced and in a few weeks it will be heading to Tolman....

 

 

££££s

[Leslie green 71]

I think personally the first Tolman they featured on top gear was a letdown with a basically standard 1.6 engine. The ones after have been a bit more exciting but I think putting a 16v head on and all the work and cost involved when the gti6 engine is readily available didn't really make a lot of sense but then when did trying to make an old car fast lol? Fighting a losing battle. 

They have however given the 205 a new lease of life iand kept it relevant in many peoples eyes so have to be applauded for that. There are so many standard cars have survived a few being modded won't make any difference and it's great to see what can be done. 

Edited May 22 by Leslie green

[DamirGTI 299]

21 hours ago, SRDT said:

 

"We've not  transplanted a whole engine, we've used the very latest cylinder head"

It's a RS style head with RS intake manifold. There is a picture from a mockup stage with a RS head and 3d printed parts:

 

 

And the block they're using is ? guessing secret recipe !

 

D

[Big_Wak 2]

Original block and head for me. No secrets.

 

I believe the 16V head is mated to the original block

[j_turnell 115 3 Cars]

36 minutes ago, Leslie green said:

I think personally the first Tolman they featured on top gear was a letdown with a basically standard 1.6 engine. The ones after have been a bit more exciting but I think putting a 16v head on and all the work and cost involved when the gti6 engine is readily available didn't really make a lot of sense but then when did trying to make an old car fast lol? Fighting a losing battle. 

They have however given the 205 a new lease of life iand kept it relevant in many peoples eyes so have to be applauded for that. There are so many standard cars have survived a few being modded won't make any difference and it's great to see what can be done. 

Using the alloy block is much more true to the car, and keeping it nimble as it should be. So I can see exactly why they didn’t just chuck in a gti6 I think it’s a good shout. Plus good gti6 engines are few and far between these days. 

[Type-R 3]

Sorry to hijack, but just out of interest how would the good people here spec a build if they had a blank cheque to spend at Tolman's?