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Steve205

Difficult to get into gear when hot.

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Steve205

Good morning all. I've recently sanded snd Schutz sprayed underside of my '89 1.6 gti. I also changed the clutch cable.  Few other bits done too. I still find I have a problem changing gear when engine is hot. If fan comes on in idling traffic it makes changing gear a nightmare.  3 points turn sound like I'm mashing my gearbox to hell. Clutch cable has been adjusted a few times to compensate.  Pedal now about inch higher than brake pedal. Gear changes slick and sharp when cool or driving on open road. I fitted an L-bracket last year from Retrolion to tighten gear changes a little, as they were sloppy when I first got car.  Please help...... Where is problem likely to be, from your experiences?  Still finding my way with my car,  as only have her a year or so. 

Please help me solve this problem. 

Thanks again. Stephen 

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Thijs_Rallye

The plastic part of the clutch cable which clicks into the gearbox slot tends to shear one of its ears off sometimes. Might be worth checking. That way it appears is if the clutch is set correctly but when pressing the clutch pedal the cable "twists" itself a bit in the holder which leads to a not fully disengaging clutch.

 

Have someone operate the clutch pedal and have a look under the bonnet. Also check for play in general in the clutch mechanism.

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welshpug

89 could have a BE1 or a Be3 box, differing clutch mechanism on he gearbox end.

 

I would start with checking clutch adjustment, should be close to the height of the brake pedal, and change the gear oil for Total 75w80

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Steve205

It's a Be1 gearbox.  Reverse on left side, above 1st. Had car out earlier.  Fine while engine cooled. Got stuck in small jam and gears became more difficult to engage. It's very strange. 

Stephen 

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Biggles

What oil is in the 'box ?

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Steve205

I don't know which oil in box. When I changed lower engine mount recently some oil came out, so I know there's oil in gear box. 

Will do as Welshpug suggests.  Drain oil and replace with 75W80. It's only difficult to find gear when engine fan has to come on due to engine temp. Fairly sure I got a whiff of hot gearbox oil when stuck in traffic yesterday. Could be a cheap oil that gets burned at high temp?

Any other advice is welcome.  Stephen 

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DamirGTI
Posted (edited)

If it's heat related specifically , disassemble and put some high temp. grease on the L bracket bushes and don't tight the bolt which fastens the L bracket onto the subframe to hard/stiff , leave it slightly loosen ... radiant exhaust heat tends to make the L bracket harder to move/pivot .

 

There should be an alu. heat shield plug on top of the L bracket bolt as an heat protection , or combine heat shield which protects the steering rack boot and L bracket bolt which bolts onto the subframe ... a lot of 205's have those missing .

 

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davemar

How old it the clutch itself? I recently changed my clutch as it was getting noisy, and it was also making it harder to change gear when hot. The clutch and release bearing were both very well worn out.

 

Another thought are the bushes on the L-shaped lever pivot that screws into the gearbox housing. If they are worn out and might be getting soft when hot.

 

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Steve205

History of the car is parchy at best.No clue as to age of clutch. Know clutch cable is new, as fitted a month ago. I went for approx 100 mile open road trip yesterday. Was a dream to drive, even if she has a few 32 year old rattles....Stopped at entrance gates on way home for a few minutes,  engine fan engaged as idle temp increased, was a little more difficult to engage gears to  put in garage.  It's fascinating and frustrating.  Will check clutch components when replacing gearbox oil.  

Stephen 

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