Gear Linkage Problems...

[johniban 59 1 Cars]

Hi i have the gti6 lump in my 205 gti.

 

Having trouble with the gearlinkages.. i have the adjustable ones from pugracing, havn't touched the adjusters, just put them on as they came, although i purchased a long time ago..

 

The gear stick is pretty much stuck where it is in the middle, if i loosen off the 13mm nut on the inside of the subframe under the car so the linkage wobbles about i can select gears ok just with alot of movement obviously,

 

any ideas?

[welshpug 1,626]

sounds like a seized balljoint which I haven't come across myself but entirely feasible, tighten the 13mm nut up, pull the R clip and pop it off, grease it up and you should be good to go.

[johniban 59 1 Cars]

Ive tried pulling the rclip out already its jammed solid, ill have to have another go on it

[dobboy 231 2 Cars]

I made a clip i had missing from a decent sized paper clip, seems to work ok.

[johniban 59 1 Cars]

I need to pull it apart i think and see whats going on

[johniban 59 1 Cars]

Right just been to have a look at it, with the 13mm but tightened basically the gear stick sits over to the left and the only gears I can get is 5th and reverse! So obviously an adjustment issue

[dobboy 231 2 Cars]

I can measure mine if you like

[johniban 59 1 Cars]

I think i just need to get someone to hold the gear stick in the middle and put the box into neutral and adjust from there, can see the point in all the adjustments

[dobboy 231 2 Cars]

282mm, 120mm, centre to centre of the cap things.

 

Car's not high enough at the minute to measure the big one.

[johniban 59 1 Cars]

have tried adjusting it, the adjustable small rod doesnt have enough adjustment in it, so i think im going to bin them and just get some standard ones

[welshpug 1,626]

shouldn't need to do that.

 

has it ever been on the road?

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

As above the rods could be a mile out and all gears will be selectable, they only position the gearlever

[johniban 59 1 Cars]

I can select gears ok, but 5th and reverse is where 3rd and 4th should be so, everything is over to the left, ive even tried changing to the next whole on the subframe, but then everything is too far over to the right instead

[johniban 59 1 Cars]

There is 3 holes in the subframe, ive bolted the linkage L shape thing in the middle hole as thats where it looked like it came out off, its just like the smaller rod needs to be about 10mm longer

[welshpug 1,626]

my guess is that the selector isnt engaged properly after you swapped the top arm.

[johniban 59 1 Cars]

What do you mean

[welshpug 1,626]

on the gearbox.

[dobboy 231 2 Cars]

What gearbox is it BE1 or BE3 or VTS etc? And did you change anything on it ?

 

The linkage lengths i gave you previously have suited two separate 205's.

[johniban 59 1 Cars]

Hi Jack,

 

I have the xsara vts engine and gearbox and i have changed the gear selector arm to the 205 one

my guess is that the selector isnt engaged properly after you swapped the top arm.

 

It only goes on one way if i remember right as it has a pin going through it?

[welshpug 1,626]

the bit inside I mean, if it drops down when you're trying to swap the arm it can get misaligned with the shaft as you lift it back up.

[dobboy 231 2 Cars]

John, i think maybe what's happened is what WP is saying.

 

You have to be vigilant to not let it happen when changing the arms.

 

I'm sure there's a thread on here of how to fix it using a magnet...... If you search for VTS boxes, i might even have had a thread on it too as i was unsure wtf i was doing.

[johniban 59 1 Cars]

Ah i see!,

 

Im not sure now as it was a long time ago

[johniban 59 1 Cars]

I think you two have solved my issue hopefully !

 

Ill have to rush down to the garage and have a look, is it easy to bash the pin back out with it being in the car? my garage is about 2 miles from home so i cant just pop out and have a quick look

 

i guess i need a pretty strong magnet to drop the shaft down and turn it a bit

[woodymi16 24 2 Cars]

I had a similar problem and knocking the pins out wasn't to difficult. I didn't need a magnet just put a punch through the pin hole eased the shaft down and got it relocated and reassembled.

 

I think the shaft should spring back to centre if you move it in both directions I noticed mine was wrong when it would only move in one direction.

[dobboy 231 2 Cars]

John, i'm saying magnet but best asking WP/Anthony to advise you exactly what you need to do.