Renewing Whole Suspension Setup & Lowering - Eibach & Blistein

[allye 530 3 Cars]

BBM group n strut mounts are fantastic. If your car was too hard, it's due to something else!

[GLPoomobile 958]

BBM group n strut mounts are fantastic. If your car was too hard, it's due to something else!

It wasn't due to anything else in my case. The donuts were the only thing changed and it tipped the balance for me. All this shows is that everyone has a different perception of acceptable ride quality, different wants/needs and of course you have to factor in different roads (Uk roads are all s*ite, but they are varying levels of s*ite). It's a personal thing, just like whether you can live with a Group N exhaust on a day to day basis (up to 5 years ago I could but not now).

[ATK 143 1 Cars]

New rear beam, Bilstein B4's all round, Eibach 7001 Springs on Front & Solid Rear Beam mounts being fitted tomorow and Tuesday - can't wait!

[dobboy 231 2 Cars]

ATK, what back shocks did you choose? 205, 306, xsara?

 

I have more or less same set up, just done front yesterday, but not sure what shocks to go for on rear.

[Ams 23 1 Cars]

Presumably these : http://www.kamracing.co.uk/car-tuning/citroen/citroen-xsara/suspension/damper-kits/citroen-xsara-bilstein-b4-oe-spec-damper-kit.html

[ATK 143 1 Cars]

Yep those are the ones! Really good so far

[dobboy 231 2 Cars]

ATK, did you get the work done? How's it handling?

[ATK 143 1 Cars]

Yep had it all done. handling is much much better and the ride height is spot on, not too low at all but enough. Well worth it IMO

[dobboy 231 2 Cars]

Any pics from the side? and do you know the shock bolt centre to centre your's is at?

 

TIA

[ATK 143 1 Cars]

312mm between shock centres AFAIK. Crap pic below, will get a side one done shortly

 

Edited April 15, 2014 by ATK

[Anthony 1,003]

Yup, 312mm will be about right for a 205 GTi beam running Eibach's or similar

[ATK 143 1 Cars]

Yep, had the figure from Anthony and asked R Mountjoy/SSP Engineering to set the beam at that, and with my Eibach 7001's on the front, it looks about right I reckon.

[dobboy 231 2 Cars]

Thanks ATK..... yeah looks the business....... could do with a wash though!

 

Anthony, from memory i'm at 300mm centre to centre on the back, which i think was two splines, with -30's on the front with a GTI6 now sitting in it, so imagine mines will sit slightly lower F&R?

 

(I've no plastics on at the minute and car is on stands so can't really tell how mines will eventually look.)

[welshpug 1,682]

300 on std bars will be bloody low, roughly 65mm drop

[Anthony 1,003]

As above, 300mm will be very low on a 205 GTi beam.

 

If you really must do the "spline" method then one spline is the most sensible option - that's will end up a little lower than ATK's picture above

 

Two splines is doing to leave you next to no rear suspension travel - it's limited enough at one spline without cutting down the bump stops.

[welshpug 1,682]

For reference, i think i am at 298 but 21mm bars, and roughly 35mm drop.

[dobboy 231 2 Cars]

I'm saying two splines, but i don't actually know how it's done or what was done.

 

I know i seen it lowered slightly, and asked it to get lowered another wee bit.

 

This is how it sat a few months ago with an aged OE front, and the beam/lowering done.

 

Does it look too low?

 

 

 

Also, the 300mm is what i measured with the back of car on ramps and front on axel stands slightly lower, so probably slightly different from what it will sit at when its on all fours.

 

 

 

[welshpug 1,682]

the specified measurement is done with no tension/weight on the torsion bars, dampers removed and the weight of the trailing arm supported if the beam is on the car.

[dobboy 231 2 Cars]

Thanks WP.

[dobboy 231 2 Cars]

on all fours with the new front shocks/springs on..... (still to fit new rear shocks)

 

[Anthony 1,003]

It's quite low - hard to say exactly how low without the arches but guessing 40-50mm - but does look like it's sat broadly level

 

The extra weight of a GTi-6 engine does noticeably lower the front I found. My Eibach's whilst perfect with the alloy 8v engine were too low for my tastes after I put the boat anchor GTi-6 in the front, probably dropping it another 10-15mm.

[dobboy 231 2 Cars]

Thanks Anthony, i have a spare bodykit so i might try hold it on and take another pic. (If anything i think its sitting lower at the back.)

 

That was me just reversed it out the garage with new springs/shocks on front, so maybe it will drop a little at front after a few miles?

 

ATK, could you take a measurement for me please? (from the road to the horizontal part of the back wing just above the bumper?)

[dobboy 231 2 Cars]

[ATK 143 1 Cars]

Yep will sort a measurement asap matey

[acox99 74 1 Cars]

ATK did you fit gti-6 b4's or 205 B4's on the front?