What's The Thinnest Hubcentric Spacers Available For 205 Gti's

[Chris H 10]

Has anyone seen some thin hubcentric spacers, the type with a shoulder on them. I know by the design you'll never get them as thin as the 5mm plain spacers i have at the moment, but i'd like to limit the increase in track width as much as i can! The smallest i've seen so far is a 12mm thick spacer.

 

 

 

[welshpug 1,627]

I've seen 10mm but they were custom made by Phillip M, you may need to turn/grind down the spigot on the hubs a little to get something that thin on though.

 

Do you need the spacers for brake clearance on a solid disc?

[Chris H 10]

I'm running PTS Alcon 4 pots and need a 5-6mm spacer to clear the brakes using std 1.9 205 alloys.

 

My reason for looking for some new spacers is i have a vibration at high speed and has something to do with the brake set up...i wonder if the wheel isn't sitting quite concentric as it doesn't sit on the hub diue to the spacers.

 

I've had the same vibration on 2 cars and both were fine till i fitted the brakes. I have swapped the disks too, checked them for run out, tripple checked wheel balance so only thing i can think of now is the wheel location.

[welshpug 1,627]

the last set of those brakes I remember seeing had a spacer built into the alloy bell of the disc.

 

know anyone local with some team dynamics wheels? as they tend to clear most stuff when the original wheels are that close to clearing.

[dcc 855]

Didnt a member (oo eeer) on here space the caliper in Mei, enough so that his brembo's cleared on chrono's

[Tom Fenton 1,526]

I'm confused, you shouldn't need to space the wheels off especially.

 

These are the brakes on my track car, we recently made the bells to suit, the thickness at the hub flange is only circa 8mm.

 

[welshpug 1,627]

May well be the speedline vs smr difference.

[Tom Fenton 1,526]

No, both fit.

[Chris H 10]

Thank's for your replies. I'll have a look at why i need spacers...or maybe i don't need spacers (sure i'd only put them on if i'd really needed them)

 

Tom, what disks are your bells designed to suit, std PTS 205 ones or GP4 Escort ones?

[Tom Fenton 1,526]

The discs are an AP disc, we did look into using the Escort ones but the space is very tight between the outer diameter of the hub and the inner radius of the caliper so they are not suitable. I contacted a lot of places including Alcon themselves, none of which could tell me what the original Peugeot disc and bell was so between my mate Phil and I we sorted them ourselves.

I could probably get another set made if you want some.

[rallyeash 155]

I have kad discs with a back offset and spacers to space the caliper in by 10mm for sale if it's of use. Will stop the need for wheel spacers.

[Mad Scientist 106]

I also machined the bells and caliper brackets down on my tarox setup. This means I don't need spacers and standard alloys fit over them. They are 6 pots.

 

Minimum recommended bell thickness at the hub face is 7mm, according to AP technical.

 

Spacers are a bodge.

[calvinhorse 870]

Talk to allanallen he runs a strange set up on his rally car, thin spacer and seperately spigot ring

[allye 530 3 Cars]

can you not just run a stud conversion? Then you can safely have as thin spacers as you like.

[welshpug 1,627]

wont make any difference as you still need the hub to centre the wheels, its a rally car anyway, what rally car doesn't have a least two studs per wheel

[allye 530 3 Cars]

Just buy the decent spacers with the ring on there to centre the wheel!

Edited November 25, 2013 by allye

[welshpug 1,627]

Thats the problem if you read the thread, cant go thinner than 10mm or so

[allanallen 528 2 Cars]

As cal says I've got a funny spigot ring and 7mm spacer setup on the front of my rally car. The spigot centres the wheel on the hub then the spacer fits over the top of the spigot. That makes no sense whatsoever does it?!

 

I'd take pics but the cars outside, it's cold and I've lost the frecking keys! And Pete would accuse me of bodging!

[rallyeash 155]

Be interested to see this. Did you make or buy it Allan?

[allanallen 528 2 Cars]

Nah, I'd of done it properly! came on the car, it ain't pretty but it works so if it ain't broke.....

[rallyeash 155]

I too have a bit of vibration which must be since fitting the big brakes and hubcentrics.

 

Currently have 15mm hubcentrics using standard gti6 discs on Kad 6 pots under C5's stud converted. I could get away with 10mm ones I think but don't want to change if the vibration stops

[Chris H 10]

Thank's for all the comments and sugestions.

 

Had a look at the car tonight and realised that the wheels DO hit the caliper without the spacers.

 

However, having spent half an hour with a small belt sander carefully "fettling" the calipers the wheels (smr and speedline) now fit with out the need for spacers.

 

 

Now i just need to take it for a test run and see if this work has made any diference to my vibration issue!

[Chris H 10]

Well, i guess my hunt for spacers is no longer needed...now i can fit the wheels whithout needing spacers at all....my horrible vibration has gone.

 

Wish i'd sorted that 2 years ago when this problem 1st showed up!

 

Thanks again for the suggestions and comments.

[Mad Scientist 106]

Excellent bodge avoidance!

 

 

All though some would argue belt sanding wheels is a bit rough!.........

 

[Chris H 10]

Actually it was the calipers i took the sander too! When looking at photos of similar calipers they all have the edge ground off ( as mine had been) but i just needed to take a little more off mine for them to clear.

 

Not that i'm saying that grinding bit's off your brakes is a good thing...but comparing it to others you can see it's a common thing to do and won't cause problems.