Starter Motor

[amusingadam 6 1 Cars]

So changed the clutch Sunday seems I have over looked something possibly. My issue is that the starter is blowing sparks out the bottom car runs fine starts fine but as soon as you jerk the engine ie give it the beans the starter seems like it spinning full up, clearly I have a wiring fault but I can't see anything loose I have also changed the starter to eliminate that where to go from here anything simple I could of over looked ????? thanks guys

[acox99 71 1 Cars]

Sounds like the solenoid or starter is staying engaged. Is the starter still whiring when the engine has started?

[amusingadam 6 1 Cars]

If you start the car you have no issues but when you put it under heavy load it spins itself up

[Vili 17]

Starter solenoid wire is touching starters live +12 V wire. Check if either one them is loose at the back of the starter.

 

edit: At least that is the only thing I can come up with.

Edited October 2, 2013 by Vili

[ORB 227 1 Cars]

Ignition barrel sticking?

[amusingadam 6 1 Cars]

Nope ignition barrel working a treat now it seems to only do it when you select reverse ??????

[amusingadam 6 1 Cars]

Update disconnected the reversing light switch and its fine Erm no idea I'm guessing a back feed somehow

[jackherer 543]

The starter and the reversing light feed both go through a brown multiplug above the gearbox so the wires do run alongside each other, I'd be looking for some wires caught between something that's crushed them together or maybe the loom has dropped onto the exhaust manifold and melted the insulation away...?

[welshpug 1,626]

the reverse light is on an ignition switched so one of the two wires to the switch will be live.

[amusingadam 6 1 Cars]

upon looking around my rev counter has dropped off it doing nothing do they also run through the brown plug as well thanks for the info i'm taking the box out again and going to work through it all over again i'm convinced its something i have done but i'm always so careful

[Anthony 1,000]

Rev counter doesn't run through the underbonnet brown plug, no - just dash sensors/lights, starter, and reverse light wiring.

[amusingadam 6 1 Cars]

any ideas why the rev counter would just stop seems odd i was poking around there then nothing ?????

[jackherer 543]

There is a fuse for the rev counter that is worth checking. If it's blown you should definitely be looking for damaged wiring.

[Anthony 1,000]

The wiring for the rev counter feed does run near the gearbox on earlier cars (with a wing mounted wet coil) so it's possible you've crimped the wire when refitting the gearbox or similar.

 

Of course, it's a 205, and thus random faults occuring can sometimes be attributed to nothing other than voodoo

[acox99 71 1 Cars]

Have you plugged the sad plug into the reverse light switch and and reverse light switch into sad. Iv seen the same symptom where these were round the wrong way.

[amusingadam 6 1 Cars]

no everything has gone back where it should 100% had to take the box out due to a faulty clutch now got to take the gearbox out due to the gearbox rattling its teeth off still could be worse ........... not sure how to end that ​

[acox99 71 1 Cars]

Reverse light switch plug should be white from memory. Was just a thought. Strange one this.

[amusingadam 6 1 Cars]

All thought are welcome only takes a second to check things appreciate the help guys

[Anthony 1,000]

If you have the ignition on but engine not running, does the starter engage if you put it in reverse?

 

Unplug the reverse switch - does the issue still occur?

 

Have you had a close look all around the gearbox for any pinched/damaged wiring?

[amusingadam 6 1 Cars]

Not yet I'm.removing a few bits soon so was going to have a full look been brought new wire new connector blocks from my local supplier also got a reverse cable just incase looks a little chewed up doubt it has anything to do with it but I'm prepared for the worse case only thing I havent found yet is a flywheel as unsure if the starter would of had a chew at it can't imagine they will be cheap and won't no until I move.the gearbox will def keep you all posted with anything I find. I like to think I'm fairly switched on so if its a mistake I have made most amateurs could do it also