rnotman67 0 Posted August 7, 2009 Hi just a quicky, does anyone have a picture of the mi g/box especially where the clutch cable joins it. I think im missing something as i can pull the cable and the pedal moves but it wont return to its normal position. im not to familiar with this so any info is mucho appreciated. Cheers Ryan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rnotman67 0 Posted August 7, 2009 1.9 or 2.0? 1.9 cheers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,737 Posted August 7, 2009 I would think that a picture of any BE3 box would do as they are the same fitment. wrong there, there's pull type and push type. a picture of the problem gearbox from the OP would help Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rnotman67 0 Posted August 7, 2009 wrong there, there's pull type and push type. a picture of the problem gearbox from the OP would help If i remember correctly (was a couple of days ago) its a push type, does this help? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug_ham 245 3 Cars Posted August 7, 2009 wrong there, there's pull type and push type. a picture of the problem gearbox from the OP would help Not on the alloy block 1.9 there isn't, they're all push afaik. Taken from this article on the main website. The pedal is sprung by the release bearing against the pressure plate afaik & nothing else. Graham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,737 Posted August 7, 2009 (edited) Agree with you there Graham, I was just pointing out that; a picture of any BE3 box would do was not correct. Edited August 7, 2009 by welshpug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rnotman67 0 Posted August 7, 2009 Not on the alloy block 1.9 there isn't, they're all push afaik. Taken from this article on the main website. The pedal is sprung by the release bearing against the pressure plate afaik & nothing else. Graham. Dont think ive got a bE3 then, sure theres a bracket that comes out the plastic plate under the lever there. I will have a good look tommorrow as im going over to my garage to carry on with it. i will try get some pictures. Thanks for the info so far guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,737 Posted August 7, 2009 (edited) Definitely sounds like a BE1 mechanism, quite likely for a roughly 30mm long rod to be missing between the lever that pivots on the gearbox and the clutch release lever itself. it often falls out as there's meant to be a spring holding the clutch lever to the pivoting arm but is often missing so the pin falls out when the clutch cable is removed or snaps. Edited August 7, 2009 by welshpug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rnotman67 0 Posted August 7, 2009 Definitely sounds like a BE1 mechanism, quite likely for a roughly 30mm long rod to be missing between the lever that pivots on the gearbox and the clutch release lever itself. it often falls out as there's meant to be a spring holding the clutch lever to the pivoting arm but is often missing so the pin falls out when the clutch cable is removed or snaps. what bits do i need then? is the BE1 the 1.6 box or the mi16 box? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug_ham 245 3 Cars Posted August 7, 2009 Is it definately an Mi gearbox then? Even if its a Be1 Mi gearbox I don't think they had the rod, the one I removed to replace a clutch on didn't have & iirc they all have the Be3 style clutch mechanisms. Graham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,737 Posted August 7, 2009 (edited) it could be a 1.9 or 1.6 box, not an Mi16 one if it has the arm poking out of the bellhousing, but without a picture its hard to say what you'll need. Mi16's I think like Graham says only have the release fork and arm on the top end of the shaft. Edited August 7, 2009 by welshpug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackherer 543 Posted August 7, 2009 Mi16's I think like Graham says only have the release fork and arm on the top end of the shaft. Yes all the Mi16 boxes, either BX or 405, BE1 or BE3, use the same BE3 style mechanism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug_ham 245 3 Cars Posted August 8, 2009 what bits do i need then? is the BE1 the 1.6 box or the mi16 box? A Be1 can be either a 1.6, 1.9 or Mi but if it has the set up as shown below on the gearbox cable end you need the small rod item #2 but its not an Mi gearbox. Graham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philfingers 5 Posted August 8, 2009 looks like this the little rod, as you can see lockwiring it in place stops you loosing it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,737 Posted August 9, 2009 (edited) putting the standard fit spring on there does it too Edited August 9, 2009 by welshpug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites