manrajf 0 Posted June 17, 2009 Hi everyone I took my car in for a MOT test today morning and unfortunately it failed because one of rear drum brake is leaking, so i got home put it on axle stands and undid the hub nut, but the drum hasnt come off, iv tried tapping the sides in case the shoes are stuck, but still no luck (before anyone says it i have released the handbrake lol) I know there was a topic on here some time ago with someone struggling with the same thing, iv tried to search but cant find it or anything similar. Any help would be appreciated thanks manraj Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul_13 212 1 Cars Posted June 17, 2009 Buy a hub removal tool from Halfrauds, may severely bugger your pads up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jas-E 1 Posted June 17, 2009 I know there was a topic on here some time ago with someone struggling with the same thing, iv tried to search but cant find it or anything similar. http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?s...m+removal\ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manrajf 0 Posted June 17, 2009 Cheers for the info guys, il try the notch as specified in the link, or il have to go to the fraudsters and get a puller tool thanks manraj Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miles 331 1 Cars Posted June 17, 2009 They can be a right pain, A puller is the best bet as the drums can be damaged if you lever them too much but it can be done that way. I;d do both side's with new Slave Clyinders and shoes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobBBoi 0 Posted June 18, 2009 I found putting the wheel back on with 2 bolts gave me enough leverage to remove the hub. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildejon 7 Posted June 18, 2009 I had the same prob with mine, ended up using a puller, wrecking everything and replaced the lot, might as well while its all off then you won't have to touch it for years. Was really nice to drive afterwards! Would rather do an engine swap... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SweetBadger 91 Posted June 18, 2009 Also had a nightmare getting the drums off mine, turned out it was the inner part of the bearing seized on the stub axel. As suggested try bolting the wheel back on a giving it a good pull while rotating it (make sure the car is well supported off the ground if you do this). If that doesn't work I found that getting a large block of wood (2x2) and wedging it on to the back of the drum then twating it with a lump hammer shifted it - drums and bearings were undamaged Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildejon 7 Posted June 18, 2009 I should add, that the problem with mine, was that the pads had worn into the drum and created a lip, which is normal after so many years I guess! so moving the drum was pulling hte whole assembly also. Apparently there is a switch in there you can use to retract them but I never found it, I think it was all lies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manrajf 0 Posted June 18, 2009 Hi everyone cheers for the replies, i finally got the bugger off, i used the putting the wheel on and pulling while rotating method and it worked like a charm. Also everything came out intact nothing broke or snappped, but it was full of oil in there so had to give it a proper clean. All im waiting for now is a new cylinder from gsf and put it back on. also since the bearing is in the drum is it hard to get the drum back on the stub axle? thanks manraj Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billybluesky 1 Posted June 18, 2009 Hi everyone cheers for the replies, i finally got the bugger off, i used the putting the wheel on and pulling while rotating method and it worked like a charm. Also everything came out intact nothing broke or snappped, but it was full of oil in there so had to give it a proper clean. All im waiting for now is a new cylinder from gsf and put it back on. also since the bearing is in the drum is it hard to get the drum back on the stub axle? thanks manraj oops it all looks a bit brake fluidy in there make sure your brake shoes arn`t contaminated too much if there`s only light contamination you can clean them up with brake cleaner but if they`re soaked you could do with replacing them also i recently had a sticking drum it turned out to be the bearing was tight on the shaft i just cleaned the shaft up with some emery and it was ok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ablister 31 Posted June 19, 2009 if the cylinders were leaking so badly as to be noticed in a mot then the shoes will definately need replaced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billybluesky 1 Posted June 19, 2009 just a quick note to anyone who has to replace rear cylinders i always unbolt the cylinder from the backplate then holding the brake pipe nut with a spanner turn the brake cylinder to undo it thereby not ripping the end offf the brake pipe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Fenton 1,525 Posted June 19, 2009 Those shoes look to need replacing. I wouldn't chance reusing those. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manrajf 0 Posted June 20, 2009 Hi all the job is all done now, i got new shoes and replaced the cylinder, bled the sytem and everything is ok now, all i need now is for it to pass the MOT and jobs a good un cheers manraj Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug_ham 240 3 Cars Posted June 20, 2009 Did you do both wheel cylinders? Last year I did one on my mums car & mentioned getting the other one done asap. A week later I went to do it & I was just in time, it was leaking already. Graham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manrajf 0 Posted June 20, 2009 Did you do both wheel cylinders? Last year I did one on my mums car & mentioned getting the other one done asap. A week later I went to do it & I was just in time, it was leaking already. Graham. Hi Graham I only replaced the one that was leaking, but its been at the back of my head that i might need to do the other side, but the thing is i just need the car to pass its MOT as its my daily drive and i cant function without it lol. So il probably get the other side done sometime next week after it hopefully passes manraj Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
