Tom Fenton 1,526 Posted February 12, 2009 So they said 266mm 306 XSI brakes will fit under 14" wheels..... Well "they" were wrong, I've offered them up tonight and the inner part of the wheel fouls part of the caliper bracket. This is with SMR 1600 wheels, perhaps Speedline 1600 wheels would clear? In any case I'm never going to find out, the car will get 1900 wheels on it instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdCherry 34 1 Cars Posted February 12, 2009 Pretty sure the Speedline's have a more curved backing there was a topic about this agessss ago. You know you wanna keep the 1600 wheels really, keeping it looking like the 1600 it is! Would it not be possible to find someone in the local area with a Speedline 1600 that you could borrow? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M@tt 77 Posted February 12, 2009 nah get rid of them ugly pepperpots and get some proper 1.9's on it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Fenton 1,526 Posted February 12, 2009 Part of the steath mode was to keep it on the standard wheels, but there is no way I'm paying money to get any more, so seeing as I've about 10 1900 wheels in the garage, including 6 that say "SPEEDLINE" and "ITALY" on them, thats what it will get. Also means I'll have to fit the discs on the back, can't have 1900 wheels with drums, the offset is wrong for a start. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luggy 13 Posted February 12, 2009 Ive managed to get 1.9 calipers to clear 1.6 speedlines with a little gentle persuasion with a grinder on the caliper carrier! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdCherry 34 1 Cars Posted February 12, 2009 Mmmm, some people might swap depending on what condition they are in. Still think you should do the stealth mode, you can pickup single 1600 wheels on ebay very cheap if your willing to do the odd 20 mile journey this or that way. Before you know it you'll have 4 speedlines, and can sell the SMRs on it to recoup the money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boombang 2 Posted February 12, 2009 So they said 266mm 306 XSI brakes will fit under 14" wheels..... Well "they" were wrong, I've offered them up tonight and the inner part of the wheel fouls part of the caliper bracket. This is with SMR 1600 wheels, perhaps Speedline 1600 wheels would clear? In any case I'm never going to find out, the car will get 1900 wheels on it instead. I have run them behind Speedline 1.6 rims, wouldn't fit under my SMR 1.6 rims. Best Pug 14" rim I've found for caliper clearance is the 106 xsi - loads of clearance. Also worth noting that there are at least 2 different castings of 1.6 Speedline rim. My 205 runs 1.9 calipers and the first set I put on fitted straight over with no rubbing at all. When changed the wheels over to another set of Speedlines, had to grind the edge off. Then put 1.6 SMRs on and had to grind off a touch more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baz 421 Posted February 12, 2009 no, 1.9 rear brakes don't fit under the non-speedline 1.6 rims, bit strange but there's a difference!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boombang 2 Posted February 12, 2009 Mmmm, some people might swap depending on what condition they are in. Still think you should do the stealth mode, you can pickup single 1600 wheels on ebay very cheap if your willing to do the odd 20 mile journey this or that way. Before you know it you'll have 4 speedlines, and can sell the SMRs on it to recoup the money. This is how I've ended up with somewhere around 40 1.6 rims.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baz 421 Posted February 12, 2009 or why upon last count i have close to 200 wheels... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boombang 2 Posted February 12, 2009 or why upon last count i have close to 200 wheels... kin el Baz that's good going! I did have 40 or so 1.9 wheels too, but got a good supply of used A048s in 14" size, so sold them off. Did also have a load of 14" 405 Mi16 wheels and 106 xsi rims, but they all went on either cars I scrapped or cars mates scrapped. Next up for me is going through all the 14s to work out how many are actually Speedlines. IIRC the two types of Speedline are Italian and French. SMRs IIRC were made in Belgium and Spain. The 106 xsi rims were made in West Germany! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VisaGTi16v 1 Posted February 12, 2009 My friend has a 106 XSi with 14" rallye steels on it and my old zx 16v 266mm front brakes on it which presumably are the same as 306 ones. Bit tight but they fit... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baz 421 Posted February 12, 2009 kin el Baz that's good going! I did have 40 or so 1.9 wheels too, but got a good supply of used A048s in 14" size, so sold them off. Where where where???? Ya, scattered around here and there but i think it's safe to say i have a bit of a worrying wheel fetish!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miles 331 1 Cars Posted February 12, 2009 I have fitted rear disc's to 1.6 SMR's and Speedlines with no problems at all, I guess the normall build quality creaps in here But I know they fit the 106 XSi and Rallye so no reason why not the 205 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,626 Posted February 12, 2009 405's have 266mm discs and a lower offset disc and many run 14" alloy or steel wheels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rippthrough 98 Posted February 12, 2009 Tom, the 307 266mm brakes have more disc offset to bring them further away from the wheel, if you want to try them just in case let me know ASAP before I put the heap back on the road! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Fenton 1,526 Posted February 13, 2009 Thanks for the offer Phil, but i'm loathe to spend any more bloody money on the brakes now, so its going to get what I've got and like it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M@tt 77 Posted February 13, 2009 tom i'm getting a 405 at weekend so if you want to do a straight swap for the brakes/calipers to see if these ones would clear you're more than welcome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rippthrough 98 Posted February 13, 2009 Thanks for the offer Phil, but i'm loathe to spend any more bloody money on the brakes now, so its going to get what I've got and like it! That's the best bit, the 106 and lesser 306 lads will take the 266's off you like lightning, and 266 307 brakes are still fairly cheap at the scrapyards 'cause no-one wants 'em, I got mine for £30... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pug_ham 242 3 Cars Posted February 13, 2009 Tom's right, I found this when I fitted the 266 brakes to mine last year or when ever it was. I had to trim the caliper body & yoke & thats with 1.9 GTi calipers. (if they aren't 1.9 calipers they still have 48mm pistons). Its not as bad on the Speedline 1.6 alloys but you can barely turn the wheel with SMR's fitted. My car is running rear discs & Speedline 1.6 alloys without any clearance issues but I'm also sure I've run with SMR's on & had no probolems. Graham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d-9 0 Posted February 13, 2009 Interesting, the 266mm 206 GTI brakes fit under 14" steelies.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uberderv 6 Posted February 28, 2009 I have a set of 266mm calipers from a 206HDI and a 307. The 206HDI calipers are not as wide as in from hub to wheel as the 307 versions. . The 307 calipers also appear to be more 'square' than the 206 version as they do not fit on the 206 yokes Here are some pics with rough measurements (307 calipers are the dirty ones) The pic is a little wonky because I have been drinking stella but the 206 ones are deffo smaller- RED- 118mm GREEN- 112mm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rippthrough 98 Posted February 28, 2009 That's because the 307 brakes use 26mm thick discs vs 22mm for the 206. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
