unariciflocos 49 1 Cars Posted November 5, 2008 I'm looking for a 1.9 D6B head for my 1.9 DFZ Rallye engine and i found one here. Problem is that the guy says the head is equipped with a camshaft from a 2.0 turbo engine. Does anyone know how this is different from the stock 1.9 gti camshaft? Is it an ok mod or should i stay away? Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Josh 4 Posted November 5, 2008 I would stay away as the 2.0T camshaft is very mild, with very little overlap. Although I am sure someone will swap your DFZ cam for a D6B one, as that is a good upgrade for 2.0T, so it still may be worth getting that head if it is good condition. Josh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DamirGTI 327 Posted November 5, 2008 Ditto , id stick with D6B cam .. http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?s...amp;hl=camshaft You can identify camshafts by paint marks/rings , in the case of D6B cam it'll be like this (the top one is D6B , and the bottom one DKZ ..) : Damir Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DamirGTI 327 Posted November 5, 2008 Although I am sure someone will swap your DFZ cam for a D6B one, as that is a good upgrade for 2.0T, so it still may be worth getting that head if it is good condition. Josh Well , no that would be DKZ cam Josh ... cos DFZ one is almost identical to the std. 2.0T cam : DKZ Inlet valve lift - 11.0 Exhaust valve lift - 11.0 DFZ Inlet valve lift - 10.5 Exhaust valve lift - 9.7 RGX (2.0T) Inlet valve lift - 10.5 Exhaust valve lift – 9.35 D6B Inlet valve lift - 11.3 Exhaust valve lift – 11.3 Damir Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henrik P 0 Posted November 5, 2008 Well , no that would be DKZ cam Josh ... cos DFZ one is almost identical to the std. 2.0T cam : DKZ Inlet valve lift - 11.0 Exhaust valve lift - 11.0 DFZ Inlet valve lift - 10.5 Exhaust valve lift - 9.7 RGX (2.0T) Inlet valve lift - 10.5 Exhaust valve lift – 9.35 D6B Inlet valve lift - 11.3 Exhaust valve lift – 11.3 Damir I thougt that the D6B 1.9 GTI 130HP cam said: valve lift: 9,7mm according to 205gtidrivers technical specification site? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unariciflocos 49 1 Cars Posted November 6, 2008 I will ask the guy to send the head with the stock camshaft then as soon as he sends me a picture of the engine code. If it's a dkz will I still get 11:1 compression on my dfz bottom end? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DamirGTI 327 Posted November 6, 2008 I thougt that the D6B 1.9 GTI 130HP cam said:valve lift: 9,7mm according to 205gtidrivers technical specification site? Nope if you take a good look at the lobes you'll see (roughly) that they're identical (inlet/exhaust) - high projecting and rather sharp nose on both the inlet and exhaust lobes ... compared to the other camshaft types this one has the highest lift and i believe duration also .. or still , if you wish , try to measure the lobes with verniers and compare with other cam types Damir Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unariciflocos 49 1 Cars Posted November 8, 2008 My new head and cam are here, but I think the cam is no good. According to this my cam is a RFX or RGY. I don't know how there compare to the stock 1.6 or 1.9 camshaft. At the moment I have a 1.6 (early model), a DFZ and the above camshafts. Which one should i use until I get another cam? By the way, does anyone know of anyone who is selling a cam somewhere in the region of 285 - 300 degrees. I'm going to be in the UK for the next month and I'd like to buy one, but i can't post in the wanted section as I do not have enough posts yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DamirGTI 327 Posted November 8, 2008 Can you make few detail pics of the camshaft lobes ... and the entire camshaft (so that we can see the markings ..) ? I can provide you "rough" measurements of D6B cam lobes (measured with verniers) , so you can compare them with yours .. some engine types are missing in that identification document so it might be form an 1.6 engine Damir Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unariciflocos 49 1 Cars Posted November 9, 2008 Nevermind, I've just won a Kent PT23 off ebay and will be putting that baby in. Thansk for the time and info though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ledders 1 Posted November 13, 2008 Hi it has baffled me slightly and sorry if I seem thick to more knowledgeable.. I have a cam that I plan to have put in my 205 turbo conversion, it was sold too me as a DKZ cam, but I am not convinced can any of you wise owls help I can send pictures of it too your email address if that helps. Oh and what are paint rings as that might help aswell I have looked for the jam tart version rings of paint but really don't no what I am looking for. Regards Martyn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DamirGTI 327 Posted November 13, 2008 (edited) Make a good detail photo and post it here .. and we'll take a look at what you have .. Anyway this is DKZ cam (the bottom one with the pulley fitted ..) : It'll have paint marks in positions as shown on the picture (back arrow is pointing on the paint ring identification mark - bottom one is DKZ cam , top one is D6B cam so you can see the difference in mark position between the two ..) , and double recess for the bearing cap No.5 (red arrows) as well as slightly different pattern at the dizzy end of the cam (bearing cap No.1) Damir Edited November 13, 2008 by DamirGTI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites