jonand 0 Posted May 12, 2007 I have recently fitted a MS to my race car, and thought that it would be useful to be able to view the datalog created in the tuning software. Only problem with that is that it would require my laptop to be connected durung the races - which is not ideal. I tthen came across the free suite of applications in the MS community for using Palm PDAs, and subsequently bought a brand new Palm 111c from ebay for the princely sum of £19.95. Having loaded the relevant applications in the Palm (palmlog, palmtune, palmedit), I can now plug the Palm into the serial port of the MS and not only create a datalog (for subsequent uploading and viewing on the laptop), but also view selectable realtime data on the palm display. There is also a realtime map editing facility - although I haven't used this yet. If anyone wants more info, it can be found at the MSefi.com forum under 'palm based software' Jon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ahl 4 Posted May 12, 2007 Thats a very good tip. Thanks Jon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPGTi 2 Posted May 12, 2007 Yep, have a Palm ready to use .... just need to get MS installed Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cybernck 400 1 Cars Posted May 23, 2007 i've got a Garmin iQue 3600 Palm-based GPS handheld unit - would i be able to use this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPGTi 2 Posted May 24, 2007 i've got a Garmin iQue 3600 Palm-based GPS handheld unit - would i be able to use this? You need a serial output on the Palm top. This is usually the older models, the newer ones with USB output don't connect with the MS unit. I got mine for £5 off ebay with all the discs leads, fold out keypad etc etc. If you go to the MSEFI website there is a list of known compatible machines. Mad prof. was also looking at bluetooth connectivity, I don't know how far he has got with this though. Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonand 0 Posted May 24, 2007 i've got a Garmin iQue 3600 Palm-based GPS handheld unit - would i be able to use this? As long as it uses Palm OS v3.5 or above and has a serial port, it should be OK. Best try it using this link for info http://www.msefi.com/viewforum.php?f=73&am...fc90cb018421f9a. You may have to register to the forum, but its all for free. If it doesnt work, you can find Palms on ebay very cheaply - there is a section on the above forum which advises the best Palm models (I bought a Palm 111c which has a colour display) Regards Jon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ahl 4 Posted May 24, 2007 You do get USB to Serial converters though - I use one with a garmin GPS and it seems to work fine once its configured. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scottieb 0 Posted May 24, 2007 Nice tip Jon. I was going to design a flash based memory unit for data loging, looks like you just sved me the trouble! Scott Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonand 0 Posted May 24, 2007 You do get USB to Serial converters though - I use one with a garmin GPS and it seems to work fine once its configured. I believe that using a USB / Serial Adaptor is do-able with this application, but there have been some issues. If you go onto the forum I linked previously and do a search - there is a lot of info which should answer your queries. I have the standard serial port on the 111c and use a null modem adaptor whilst datalogging, then the standard straight thro serial lead to upload the datalog to the PC. Regards Jon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPGTi 2 Posted May 24, 2007 Nice tip Jon. I was going to design a flash based memory unit for data loging, looks like you just sved me the trouble! Scott Apparently these don't work very well with MS. Lots of info on the forum though. Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scottieb 0 Posted May 24, 2007 (edited) Jon, Are you Running Squirt and Spark Extra software on your ECU or just standard B&G code? Edited May 24, 2007 by Scottieb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonand 0 Posted May 24, 2007 Jon, Are you Running Squirt and Spark Extra software on your ECU or just standard B&G code? Yes - running MSnS Extra v3, but for ignition only ATM (R1 carbs). Regards Jon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scottieb 0 Posted May 24, 2007 OK, just bought a IIIc and a serial 'hot sync' cable off ebay £40 all in. Will aheva play with it. Anything to watch out for? bearing in mind I have not used a Palm ever? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scottieb 0 Posted May 24, 2007 Jon, Are you Running Squirt and Spark Extra software on your ECU or just standard B&G code? if you dont mind me asking how are you triggering it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonand 0 Posted May 28, 2007 OK, just bought a IIIc and a serial 'hot sync' cable off ebay £40 all in. Will aheva play with it. Anything to watch out for? bearing in mind I have not used a Palm ever? You will need a null modem adaptor cable to link the Palm to the MS (via the hot sync lead), and standard serial cable for uploading data from Palm to PC. Otherwise its all very straightforward - help files in the software download. Enjoy Jon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonand 0 Posted May 28, 2007 if you dont mind me asking how are you triggering it? My set up is triggered from the std PUG VR sensor (60-2 crank sensor), then PUG wasted spark coil pack fired via 2 drivers built into the MS. Regards Jon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
