foreigner 0 Posted October 31, 2006 (edited) Another silly question from me. I am planning to put 1.9 td engine from my crashed 306 into 205. I want to use 1.6 gti gearbox. Any issues with it or which one is the best to use. Edited October 31, 2006 by foreigner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DTORU 0 1 Cars Posted October 31, 2006 if using the gti gear box you'll need to change the clutch as most 306s use a pull clutch where gti 205's use a push clutch, you'll need a 405 MI16 clutch as this clutch is push clutch and is the correct size for the 1.9td flywheel (i think its 240mm) where as the gtis use a 215mm cltuch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreigner 0 Posted November 1, 2006 Thanx for that. So you think that 1.6gti gearbox would be ok? or you recomend some other gearbox? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hilgie 16 2 Cars Posted November 1, 2006 The 1.6GTi box is way and way too short for running on a derv engine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DTORU 0 1 Cars Posted November 1, 2006 Im going to run a 306 S16 Box on my 1.9td Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RossD 43 Posted November 1, 2006 Im going to run a 306 S16 Box on my 1.9td Your ok with a 90mph top speed then?! The diesel just hasn't got the revs to use a petrol gearbox!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jim21070 2 Posted November 1, 2006 Your ok with a 90mph top speed then?! The diesel just hasn't got the revs to use a petrol gearbox!! Or the power band to suit. TBH I cannot think of a worse combination. The car will be horrible to drive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richie-Van-GTi 70 2 Cars Posted November 1, 2006 best box for acceleration on the 1.9td is a 1.5d box out of a 106 , I used to run a 1.9 n/a derv box on my 1.9td which was good, would outrun most 1.9 td's and was great up hills etc. They dont drive very well at all on petty boxes,. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inferno 1 Posted November 1, 2006 Your ok with a 90mph top speed then?! The diesel just hasn't got the revs to use a petrol gearbox!! when are you ever going to take a derv over 90mph on the road? or any car come to think of it... the s16 box would be better than the 1.6 i would of thought. although imo u should use the box u have on the engine in the 306 and just modify or change the 205 cable to suit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreigner 0 Posted November 2, 2006 when are you ever going to take a derv over 90mph on the road? or any car come to think of it... the s16 box would be better than the 1.6 i would of thought. although imo u should use the box u have on the engine in the 306 and just modify or change the 205 cable to suit. i thought about that too. what about driveshafts? do i have to change them or htey will fit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DTORU 0 1 Cars Posted November 2, 2006 (edited) The drive shafts are all the same fitment m8 so yes there will work. AS for the cable you change the clutch release bearing arm/shaft for the one out of the 205 box your already running and use the release bearing from the same box, that way everything work ok, basicly converting a pull clutch in to a push clutch. As for using the s16 geabox, ive had the car on the rollers and it revs to 6500 and produces peak power at 6000, when i get the cam its should move the peak power to 6500-7000 so only about 500 rpm less than the S16 motor. So its should be very good, asmost the same as an S16, changed the box as i want a top end of about 140mph, but still want some decent acceleration. Untill ive tried it i wont know, if it does'nt work to well ive got a 1.9td citroen xanita box than tops out at 120mph that ill have to resort to using. Thanks DTORU Edited November 2, 2006 by DTORU Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreigner 0 Posted November 4, 2006 Just one more detail. Can I use standard engine and gearbox mounts of the 306 to fit engine into 205 or do I special one? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
