Which Oil Cooler To Use With Mi16 Conversion

[saml666 0]

Sorry if anyones getting tired of my newbie questions

 

BUT

 

My 8v has a water jacket type cooler. The Mi engine I'm fitting is std apart from twin dellortos so will this oil cooler be OK or do I need to upgrade to an air cooled one?

 

Having said that I'm sure its easy enough to change later if need be, TBH I'm getting tired of shelling out for this conversion now, just wanna drive it!

 

Ta in advance

 

Sam

[Revla 2]

Sorry if anyones getting tired of my newbie questions

 

BUT

 

My 8v has a water jacket type cooler. The Mi engine I'm fitting is std apart from twin dellortos so will this oil cooler be OK or do I need to upgrade to an air cooled one?

 

Having said that I'm sure its easy enough to change later if need be, TBH I'm getting tired of shelling out for this conversion now, just wanna drive it!

 

Ta in advance

 

Sam

 

Hi,

 

IMO the water jacket seems fine for road use..... My 2.0 Mi had one fitted as standard.

The standard 205 air cooled oil cooler is a little bit too small, SBC bin these in favour of a larger Mocal jobbie but keep the water jacket type as you have.

RobSBC has a larger Mocal air cooled oil cooler, he has just placed some tin foil over the cooler as the oil didn't reach working temp with normal driving....

 

Hope this helps.

 

Trev

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

It depends on what your using the car for, Road use the heat exchanger (Cooler as descriped) heats the oil up for a more efficent engine and has little cooling propties over a Air cooled item.

[Super Josh 4]

It also depends alot whether you have the finned ally sump fitted, as these aid colling quite alot too.

 

 

Josh

[saml666 0]

Cheers chaps, that tells me plenty for now - since I have to run it in thats a lot of gentle miles where I can get a feel for what temp it runs at, whats normal etc. Not sure if my sump is finned or not - will check

 

Many thanks, Sam

[Jonmurgie 2]

I didn't run any kind of cooler or finned sump on my Mi track car and didn't have any major oil temp issues...

[petert 556]

I didn't run any kind of cooler or finned sump on my Mi track car and didn't have any major oil temp issues...

 

depends how fast you can drive.............

Edited May 2, 2006 by petert

[B1ack_Mi16 67]

depends how fast you can drive.............

 

And how accurate the temp-gauge actually was. Didn't that bottom end just die?

[petert 556]

I didn't run any kind of cooler or finned sump on my Mi track car and didn't have any major oil temp issues...

 

mmmmm...........

[Anthony 1,000]

From memory, wasn't that the result of oil starvation from spinning off the track, rather than high oil temperatures causing it to spin a shell?

[B1ack_Mi16 67]

From memory, wasn't that the result of oil starvation from spinning off the track, rather than high oil temperatures causing it to spin a shell?

 

Or maybe a combination, who really knows for sure?

[petert 556]

From memory, wasn't that the result of oil starvation from spinning off the track, rather than high oil temperatures causing it to spin a shell?

 

aren't the two usually related?

[Jonmurgie 2]

mmmmm...........

Sorry for digging this up again but while doing a search I seem to have missed the end of this topic!

 

That was nothing to do with the heat of the oil... that was pure oil starvation and was caused by my own stupid self. I had dented the sump the day before while doing some other job on the car (don't ask) but didn't think it would matter, little did I know that there is next to bugger all gap between the bottom of the oil pump and the sump

 

Anyway, just wanted to put the record straight... my engine was FINE with no oil cooler in it's standard state... will be fitting one now though, hence finding this thread again!

[petert 556]

So what's everyone's opinion on what the ideal oil temperature is? I'm talking about a track/race car, that's kept between 4500-7500 at full load every second of it's life.

[boombang 2]

I would have a guess at 110-120 degrees using a good esther based synth. Although accurately measuring the temp is another thing.

[James_R 3]

To add to this thread, I'm running a (wide) 13row Mocal air/oil cooler with a Tin sump on my Mi, after giving it death on a few double laps at nurburgring my oil temp was getting to the 3rd bar up, I can't say how high this is as no one really knows, will be more accusute when I finally fit my SPA gauge.

 

As for good running temps 100-110deg normal opperating,

[Kitsune 0]

Anyway, just wanted to put the record straight... my engine was FINE with no oil cooler in it's standard state... will be fitting one now though, hence finding this thread again!

 

Air or water? Not sure what the Mi engine is supposed to have.