Edd-XS 0 Posted March 18, 2006 Im still in two minds about this, but I think due to my current circumstances, the most sensible (and feasable) option I have is to do my Mi conversion myself. Ive done a fair bit of reading up on it lately and it would seem that the main issues of the conversion are the wiring, stopping the exhaust from hitting the bulkhead, and the inlet manifold clearance. The exhaust shouldnt be a problem as I will be purchasing one of QEPs re-angling plates. I will still have to get the downpipe re-angled it would seem but that shouldnt be a problem. The inlet manifold/rad problem will be solved by putting a shortened manifold on. Bit of a 'cut corner' to some people but others swear by the shortened manifold, and its one less thing to worry about! The wiring is my main problem. I have the 405 engine loom, but I understand that a 'link loom' is the best option? Ive read andyR's wiring diagrams, and being fairly confident with electronics am more then capable of doing this. However, I scrapped the car before getting the car side of the loom! Are there any ways around this, or alternatively, does anyone have a spare CAR side of the loom knocking about I can have/buy? I understand the engine itself should sit in the original mounts no problems but that a stiffer bottom mount is a good idea? If anyone has anything to add then please do as although ive done a few searchs, im sure there are possible issues I may encounter should I attempt this. Many thanks Edd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dee205 3 Posted March 18, 2006 I did the conversion myself apart from getting my mechanic mate to give me a hand removing and fitting the engine. I used a stiffer lower bush and would recommend it as there isn't the slap of the engine moving when bang the loud pedal down. It won't be that big of a problem not having the car loom. It's just going to be a matter of joining the 205 sensor loom from under the dash, to the wires in the brown and black plug on the Mi managment loom. Or you can do what I'm going to be doing and that's to bring new wires from the plugs under the 205 dash straight to the sensors etc on the engine. Doing away with the need for soldering the wires together and having multiplugs that can corrode. Effectively have a managment loom and guage/sensor look seperate. This should work ok AFAIK Damien I still have loads of stuff on what all the wires on both looms are for if you get stuck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edd-XS 0 Posted March 18, 2006 so basically remove the 405 engine loom connectors and hardwire it directly to the 205 loom? is it worth hardwiring it past the original 8v connectors, or leave them in place? Is there much else that needs wiring up apart from the loom? cheers people! Edd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dee205 3 Posted March 18, 2006 Keep the original 205 plugs under the dash. You'd only end up having to solder the wires somewhere. Replace the wires in the plug with new wires to run directly to the sensors etc. Use the same spade type connectors or whatever to connect to the sensors etc. You''ll still be able to remove the link loom from the car by unclipping the plugs under the dash and pulling the spades off the sensor terminals so it won't be 'hard wired' so to speak. That's only for guages and sensors though. The fuel pump and some some other wires will be a different story but they all come from the plugs under the dash and are easy worked around. Damien Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxi 36 1 Cars Posted March 19, 2006 Whats all this about then Edd???? Link looms are a s*ite way of doing it. I always spend the time going right through the 405 loom, taking out ALL the non management s*ite and then just run the 205 sensor loom instead. Much neater and more reliable way of doing it. Maxi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miles 331 1 Cars Posted March 19, 2006 The looms easy, it's only a Positive, Switch +ve, Fuel Pump and earth along with the tacho etc, Make your own sensor loom as this get's rid of all the old dodgy connections that the std 205 sensor loom has these days. I might be getting some downpipes made without the need for a re-angled manifold as I have a pattern for this now!! But have ago, what you got to loose Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackherer 543 Posted March 19, 2006 Miles said: I might be getting some downpipes made without the need for a re-angled manifold as I have a pattern for this now!! how does a downpipe mean you dont need a reangled manifold? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pugrallye 0 Posted March 19, 2006 link looms are easy to manufacter, will make one minimal charge for anyone wanting one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inferno 1 Posted June 2, 2006 pugrallye said: link looms are easy to manufacter, will make one minimal charge for anyone wanting one fancy knocking a quick link loom up to the xantia turbo loom then tomorow for me?!make it extended of course so that i can plug it in. oh and while your at it, how about extending the ecu plug section to fit in the correct place under the dash?! do you take visa?! ta muchly! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edp 67 3 Cars Posted June 3, 2006 maxi said: Whats all this about then Edd???? Link looms are a s*ite way of doing it. I always spend the time going right through the 405 loom, taking out ALL the non management s*ite and then just run the 205 sensor loom instead. Much neater and more reliable way of doing it. Maxi Can you do this with the 306 gti6 loom?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pugrallye 0 Posted June 3, 2006 (edited) yes can make link looms for any pug engine, afraid dont take visa though, will extend ecu looms... under duress, lol Edited June 3, 2006 by pugrallye Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxi 36 1 Cars Posted June 5, 2006 Edp said: Can you do this with the 306 gti6 loom?? Yes mate, I know these looms inside out too! Ill sort it all when I drop the lump in Maxi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
