8v Engine With Mi16 Flywheel

[Mad Professor 7]

Hi All.

 

I am not relly sure what I am asking here atm.

 

When you have a Mi16 Flywheel on a 8v engine where does the VR Pickup (crank sensor) go?

 

And on the Mi16 60-2 Flywheel what teeth are where at TDC?

 

Thanks for your time.

[TEKNOPUG 3]

There should be hole in the gearbox for the crank sensor, unless you have an old gearbox, IIRC

[rich_w 0]

And the hole should be at the top, very close to the engine side.

 

On jetronic cars there will be a unused sensor with flylead in there.

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

You don;t need to worry about the flywheel position it just bolts on and off you go, No need to find TDC or anything like that

[Mad Professor 7]

I know that you can only get the Mi16 FlyWheel on in once place has there is a spline.

But I still need to work out where the Sensor go's, and what teeth is under the sensor for TDC.

 

As any time soon there is a new code being relised for my MS-II witch then will support the 60-2 Tigger.

[pug_ham 241 3 Cars]

See the hole at the upper edge of the casing where it mates to the block,

 

On jetronic cars there will be a unused sensor with flylead in there.

There shouldn't be, unless you mean the diagnostic sensor with a brown plug on the rocker cover.

 

Graham.

[TVH 0]

Teeth number 20 is under the sensor when engine is @ TDC.

[Mad Professor 7]

Thanks for the info.

 

I will have a look at my gearbox today to see if I have the hole for the sensor.

[rich_w 0]

There shouldn't be, unless you mean the diagnostic sensor with a brown plug on the rocker cover.

 

Yup, didnt make myself clear

[M3Evo 0]

Just to check: The gap is 120degrees BTDC on the Mi16 trigger isn't it? (with the sensor mounted in the gearbox)

 

Whilst I thought that was pretty much standard, it appears that some manufacturers have other ideas

Edited December 30, 2005 by M3Evo

[TVH 0]

Just to check: The gap is 120degrees BTDC on the Mi16 trigger isn't it? (with the sensor mounted in the gearbox)

 

Whilst I thought that was pretty much standard, it appears that some manufacturers have other ideas

 

Trigger wheel is 60-2 type, which makes 6degrees for each tooth, so the gap between the two missing teeth (considered as 59 and 60) and the trigger teeth is 120degrees.

[Mad Professor 7]

Well I have just been out to the car has the rain has stoped.

Had a good look around and found the hole for the sensor.

But the VR Sensor from the EDIS-4 bit's is much smaller then the hole.

I guess I am going to have to make some kind of bracket up for it.

[Anthony 1,000]

Get a CAS sensor from a Peugeot/Citroen with Motronic (or possibly even Magneti Marrelli 8p) management on it - they're 10 a penny in scrapyards and will save you a whole lot of hassle...

[Mad Professor 7]

Just found this off one of the MS sites.

 

Working example 2

Car: Peugeot 405 1990

Engine: 1.9 litre, 4-cyl, 8 valve, XU9JAZ. appllies to any other XU5 or XU9 (including the 16v) series running Motronic or Magneti Marelli (Solex) G5, G6, 8P ECU. Older models fitted with dizzy cap delivering spark, later ones with wasted spark.

Wheel type: 60-2 @ fly

Sensor type: OEM vr sensor

Wheel alignment: Tooth number 20 is under the sensor when engine is @ TDC

Wheel decoder setup:

Trigger A=5

Trigger return A=19

Trigger B=35

Trigger return B=49

Spark settings:

Trigger angle=90

Trigger return cranking

Coil: Peugeot 405 wasted spark coil (Facet aftermarket part)

Ignition module: Bosch 0 227 100 200 (Transpo aftermarket part)

Dwell settings:

3.3ms running dwell

8.0ms cranking dwell

1.0ms min. spark time

(dwell settings not scoped to optimum)

Thanks to tvh