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Clutch Kits (Specifically Release Bearing Differences)...

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bacardincoke

Late October 1989 UK registered phase 1.5, 1.9 (128hp) GTI, original engine and no reason, until the contray is shown, to suspect the gearbox isn't also... cars exact manufacturing date unknown.

 

BE3 box - Intention is to change the clutch in the near future.

 

LuK is my preferred maker, due to previous good experience on other cars.

 

Below is a link to their own eCatalogue... you'll see it lists two potential kits.

 

LuK / Schaeffler

 

My interpretation is each kit consists of the pressure plate / disc and release bearing.

 

The difference between the 2x kits is soley the release bearing, with the disc / plate being shared.

 

You'll also see the cut off dates that differentiate one kit from the other are for vehicles manufactured up to 06/89 and from 07/89.

 

Sods law dictates my box (if original to the car) could potentially be either.

 

While the date of when the box's outer casing was cast is May 1989 and predates 06/89, it's not inconceivable it could have been used to assemble a post 07/89 box.

 

The images of the 2 x types of release bearing are from the interweb, so subject to confirmation, but if correct you can see the differences.

 

Soooo, to the question... Anyone found themselves in the same boat and if so some pointers (or any other thoughts) to help me source the correct kit! 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

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welshpug

be3 in a 205 uses the bearing with the plastic clips, cross shaft with arm on top rather than the ball pivot arm with a quadrant that BE1 uses.

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welshpug

your's would also have the rares of the 3/4 clutch cables used, clevis pin on the pedal, but BE3 at the gearbox end clips directly into the casing.

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SRDT

To know if you have a BE1 or a BE3 you just have to check where is the reverse gear: next to 1 for the BE1 and next to 5 for the BE3.

 

Late BE1 casings are the same than early BE3 ones so it's not really helpfull when you're too close to the switch date.

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bacardincoke

Cheers... so just to clarify (and assuming the box is the original) the 07/89 onwards kit 620 1150 00 with release bearing 500 0327 10 (that's pictured below), is the one to go for.

 

For once I appear to need the cheaper version of something!

 

The cable was the next thing I was going to ask about.

 

The cars current one is of the type also pictured, with that hook on attachment at the pedal end.

 

They appear to come in different lengths (possibly because of LHD / RHD versions) ... most though are advertised as 660mm from tip to tip and 367mm between the grommets.

 

I can't get in well enough to measure my own, but at a guess I would say it's not too far off those figures (assuming of course the correct one was previously fitted).

 

Thanks...

 

 

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welshpug

the cable pictured is a post 1990 variant, yours being 89 'should ' have a clevis pin attachment to the pedal.

 

not that it matters.    the length of a rhd cable is around 1400mm

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