New fuel pipes perished/cracking

[Telf 222 2 Cars]

I bought a complete set of new fuel pipes when I rebuilt the car. I am right in thinking they shouldn't be cracking like pictured?

[Tom Fenton 1,524]

Welcome to modern petrol hose. No it shouldn’t look like that.  But good luck finding anything that doesn’t turn to s*it within 12/18 months.

[petert 549]

The same here in Oz. I've found the Gates Barricade E85 compatible hose lasts indefinitely compared to ordinary petrol hose.

 

https://www.gates.com/us/en/fluid-power/engine-hose/fuel-line-hose/barricade-fuel-injection-hose/p/4219-000000-000003

[Telf 222 2 Cars]

Well it's from a supposed decent supplier/partner on this site. I've contacted them and I'm waiting a response

[Telf 222 2 Cars]

Is it safe to run ? That's what I'm wondering - last thing I need is a fire!

[DamirGTI 323]

Ditto , same here ..

 

Dunno what kind or rubber compound majority of companies use these days ?! some kind of recycled stuff i guess ...

But for sure it's crap compared to what it used to be .. oddly coolant hoses seems reasonably durable , but petrol hoses are really bad no matter which brand you pick ... can say the same for the aftermarket CV boots and brake caliper cylinder and slider dust boots , just one year of use and they start to deteriorate/crack ...

 

I'd replace those with the OE petrol hoses , even old/second hand used will do .. as they're plastic/PVC on the inside thus really durable , i still have old ones on my 205's and no issues with them cracking/falling apart .

 

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[farmer 327 1 Cars]

If that Stewart's hose he has had issues as he called me about it to check my car as I was one if the first to try them.

 

My hoses have been sound so far so maybe a poorer batch 

[Telf 222 2 Cars]

It is mate. He's sending me a new set and has asked for these returned to examine them.

[MrStock 5]

I have no problems with the one from BM Baker

[boldy205 74]

I've had his fuel pipes for about 4 years now, no probs as of yet

 

[Leslie green 80]

Poor life for that hose and not uncommon now , Not sure why companies can't make hose that lasts with ethanol in fuel , it's been around quite a while now .

[petert 549]

8 hours ago, Leslie green said:

Poor life for that hose and not uncommon now , Not sure why companies can't make hose that lasts with ethanol in fuel , it's been around quite a while now .

As I said Gates Barricade (which is ethanol/methanol compatible) lasts really well compared to other hose. Cheap hose doesn't last more than 18 months, even on straight petrol.

[Telf 222 2 Cars]

Finally replaced the hoses,see pics below.

 

I cut one to see how far gone they might be. 

[davev 1]

I bought some standard motor factors hose once and within 2 years it was leaking. 

[Tom Fenton 1,524]

I wonder if it’s fake hose, e.g. not what it is supposed to be? 

This isn’t a dig at BBM, everything I’ve had from them has been great, but obviously they have to buy this fuel hose in from somewhere, I wonder if they’ve been supplied some duff hose.

[jackherer 543]

That's exactly what I said on the phone to Paul, otherwise it would be happening to more people, it has to be a bad/fake reel of hose.

[jackherer 543]

I just did a google image search for multi fuel gates auto master (the text on Paul's hose in the photo above) and the first few results all show hose with the text written in a totally different font. I can only see stuff with the heavier typeface that Paul's old hose has on Amazon...

 

[Telf 222 2 Cars]

well im going to return the hoses to Baker in the next few days so they can have a look at them. Beats me what went wrong- i guess as said they must be fake or a bad batch.

[petert 549]

I stripped and rebuilt my 205 over the Christmas break. My Gates Barricade hoses are now over 2 years old and as fresh as the day I installed them.

[Telf 222 2 Cars]

My whole experience with the build and aftermarket scene has been very mixed. Baker have been great in terms of customer service, I've had a couple of bits replaced by them with no hassle at all.

 

I've had reproduction mud flaps that are already looking tatty in less than a year, torsion bar bungs that break as you fit them, seals that don't fit ( from the Peugeot museum no less!)

 

All very stressful and disappointing

[2-Pugs 57]

I found quite an interesting article about fuel pipe recently, and this exact problem, which makes for an interesting read.

 

http://www.volksbolts.com/faq/fuelhose.htm

 

It bares out what has already been discussed above - only go for a branded, reputable make, be aware of relabelled inferior pipe, and check the pipe carefully on an ongoing basis.

 

A friend of mine (also on here) fitted new fuel pipe to his A-series mini which after 12-18 months had started to crack.  That stuff was from Halfords, and luckily he spotted it almost by chance when under the bonnet one day.

 

Also worth carrying a fire extinguisher in the car, just in case.

[bacardincoke 42 1 Cars]

How are your replacement Baker lines holding up?

 

I ask because I've recently got a set... as there was a bit of a delay in getting them, I'm assuming (hoping!) that means they are a later batch than your faulty ones.

 

Mine are clearly marked Gates Barricade, so again I'm assuming they've since sourced different hose.

 

In one of your original images there's a second hose, (arrowed), again I appear to have since bought the same stuff, (from Carbuilder Solutions)... Is that still OK?

 

 

 

 

[Telf 222 2 Cars]

hi, the new ones are ok at the moment. The low pressure pipe was supplied by Baker but didnt need replacement.

[bacardincoke 42 1 Cars]

That's spot on, thanks... It's sods law you read these things after you buy something, but good news this time.