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On this one 

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Thijs_Rallye
On 11/2/2024 at 5:03 PM, DC2T said:

but i may put the STEPs

That would be nice of you!

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The Satchell subframe arrived, and i must say is a lovely bit of kit. I missed off the steering rack mounts for now so i could model the engine in place. If i have the drive flange holes and gearebox outlets in line the engine fouls the frame, so ive had to move it up and forward slightly and it looks like it will sit nicely here

 

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It looks as though i have plenty clearance in the driveshaft angles. I still want to model this better. But my positioning appears as if it would work out

 

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DC2T

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Ok, after a spell away im back in the game. 

 

 

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Forgot i had several of these . Saw them one day when in the garage and it just clicked. Slight mod to add a hole and remove unnecessary material and the standard mount can be utilised for the rear of the box. 

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This side of the mount locates off the x section of the satchell subframe and sits at the correct position due to having the underside cut to mount the pipes. Quite elegant if I do say so myself. The support is directly under the bolt, so should give superior support.  Once all these mounts are test fit I will do some weight reduction on them, they're a bit chunky as the are.

 

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3d printed out a full scale engine to use for the mock ups. Beautiful isnt she?

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Just scanned the gearbox last night and started printing today. Will have the full mockup done by the weekend to test alignments and clearances. But so far, all looking good. Im not massively happy with the gearbox side mount. But we'll see what it's like when I get it in. Itll be redesigned with laser cutting and bending in mind so should be a lot stronger

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pugdamo

Good to see you back at this, looking forward to seeing the progress. Also I love that 3d printed engine lol

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Thanks man, yeh it's sick isnt it. It works so well for test fitting. Weighs nothing. Ive just ordered some panels for it, and im gonna be doing the fit up of the engine tomorrow. If it goes in alright, ill start machining all the mounts too. Its moving quite quickly now tbh, now there's light at the end of the tunnel it's spurring me on

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Ive just scanned the front grille, im going to make a replaceable central insert with maybe the red H badge from the integra. But ive always loved the full 3 bar grilles from back in the day. Ill 3d print it out when im done

 

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All done for the bars

 

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I think ill add in some sort of venting under the louvres, as i always remember ppl complaining about the big plate blocking air flow

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Something like this

 

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So last night i got it fit in the bay, slight issues the "stud" off the gearbox broke off so i had to glue the mount to it. Not ideal cause there was movement in it. Going to drill through and bolt them together today if i can find a usable drill. I dint photo it, as i couldnt hold all the bits, but the rear mount didnt look as though it were anywhere close to where it should be, so ill see whats going on there. I was quite shocked at the level of the thing, i know it technically should be as thats how i had set it up in CAD, but i never expect things to actually work out. Either way, progress

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welshpug

that gearbox mounting seems ratther ungainly, a huge amount of levetage going into the bush!

 

would it not be better to remove the original definct cradle and create something akin to the original 205 gearbox mounting bracket, some csk rivnuts in the chassis would hold it nicely, or put crush tubes and through bolts 

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1 hour ago, welshpug said:

that gearbox mounting seems ratther ungainly, a huge amount of levetage going into the bush!

 

would it not be better to remove the original definct cradle and create something akin to the original 205 gearbox mounting bracket, some csk rivnuts in the chassis would hold it nicely, or put crush tubes and through bolts 

Most certainly, i dont like it either. I would imagine the rear mount would help quite a bit but cannot say to what degree. I was trying first to design it in a way that would just bolt in, without any modifications to the chassis etc. But i wouldnt sacrifice strength to hit that goal. In the Integra it actually has 5 mounts, 2 on the front aswell and they both lineup with the chassis arm on either side. 

 

I hadnt considered rivnuts, but youre right they might be a good solution. Ill draught something up

 

Also figured out the rear mount position, the mounting points are on another piece of the gearbox i havent printed yet, when i measure the rough position from the top hole. It eyeballs pretty close with my calibrated eyecrometers

 

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It goes into the 2 holes right of the driveshaft hole

 

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And lines up well

 

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Ive scanned the innovative gearbox mount i have, and it positions very nicely near the chassis arm. It a surprisingly optimum position, almost like it was meant to go there .... :D

 

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Thoughts on this one? I like it more, the angle of the mount does not seem to be ideal, but i dont necessarily think it would make much difference with the others holding. 

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Well, it fits. Thoughts?

 

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SRDT

Looks like it could go a bit more to the driver side, how much room do you have to change the timing belt with the engine still in the car?

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The reason it is where it is, is because of the position of the gearbox in relation to the sub-frame. So i dont think i can go further to drivers side without modifying the satchell sub-frame. Which id rather no do if possible

 

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I'm printing the last part of the engine now, which is the output shaft area from the gearbox. Should be ready in 4 hours which will allow me to fit the driveshafts in and check the angles while in lock to lock

 

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Also, am i right in thinking this is roughly how the steering rack should go? i remember it differently but it wouldn't seem to fit well any other way. I might have to incorporate the rear mount and rack mounting into one piece. Not a big problem, just need to design it. I asked when it was made not to weld in the mounting points as i knew it was going to be in the way but as i could get the CAD model i couldn't design anything then. Looking at this pic though i already have an idea

 

Just bought myself a full steering column, so when that arrives ill attach it all up and see where its wanting to live. Looking at the column though, this does look right. 

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Looks like it should work, scanned the rack i have. Am i right in thinking the only differences in the racks are the lock to lock amount? and not the size/shape of the units?

 

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With a 6mm thick tab, we have clearance, Clarence

 

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Ok, new design done with supporting structure on other side

 

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Printing now, will try tomorrow

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welshpug

pas racks would be bulkier around the pinion, and have the collar and stud on the opposite side for the ram but that is mounted on the rear so clear of the mountings.

 

gearbox mount looks a lot better 

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Ill be going for a non power steering one. So that sounds good. Cheers, much happier with this one, ive got the rivnuts ready. Just waiting on a tool for inserting and ill make a start. 

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