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The Type Of 205Gti Which Is Most Valuable......

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driversdomainuk

Hi All,

 

I am interested to know your views. What sort of 205GTI will be the most valuable and sort after in the future (starting from now):

 

1. The totally standard ones

2. Standard mostly with a few mods such as suspension/better brakes

3. 205's keeping original "feature" parts, but used for occasional track use, hill climbing with quality upgrades to engine, gearboxes, LSDs etc..

 

I have left out serious track/striped out 650kg/250bhp machines, as I have ones with bodykits, paint jobs and neon lights :o​

 

The reason for this, I had a 205GTI which I sold to a friend after 8 years, which is stripped out/caged etc. I now have a standard 205 GTI which when I am home from Dubai I use for hill climbing in road going class - only doing 2 events a year max...I am thinking do I just keep it standard and enjoy the odd Loton Park event until I am home where I can buy something much more wild, or do I start preparing it for the track.....?

 

I need to find out if a well restored 205 with all the "period" features but modified for the track in a road going class will be as sort after as a totally standard one with all standard features....

 

Do I go subtle track prepared classic, or original classic???

 

BTW - To make a level playing field, this is based on me either spending £10,000 on building a track prepared classic or £10,000 on rebuilding it using standard parts.

 

thanks

Rob

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Tom Fenton

The way the market for 205's is going, the standard cars are the ones worth the money.

 

However with your £10 grand budget, you are going to lose money either way, as no matter what you do to a 205 GTI, it will not be worth £10k with the possible exception of an MSA logbooked well developed and with proven results rallycar, but this will require more than £10k of investment to get to.

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driversdomainuk

Good point...The £10,000 was an estimate. I would probably spend nowhere near that. Just whatever I spend on modding it, I would spend restoring it...

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Miles

Most valuable of any car is the earliest and latest model, the middle ones are just that. I'm quite lucky I have the earliest known 1.9 at work along with the 4th oldest now as well, Shame the 4th oldest is mine and not the 1st

 

If using for track, I'd get a circa 1989/90 model as they tend to fair the best.

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driversdomainuk

Mine is an 1989 model...

 

PS - anyone know how many 205 1.6 phase 1 exist now? Better still how many 205 GTI are on UK roads?

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notamondayfan

If you're looking for an investment, surely a 1FM would be pretty sound? They don't come up for sale very often at all, but you never know if you approach someone with some cash? I know it doesn't cover your track / hill climb needs, but if I were you I'd have something nice (1FM) for an investment, and have a separate 205 you can rag on a lower budget and not worry about the value of it too much.

 

Dean

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welshpug

www.howmanyleft.co.uk

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notamondayfan

Or perhaps not as valuable as a 1FM, but how about a 3 door 309 Goodwood? I'd love one if I had the cash, maybe even more than a 1FM.

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driversdomainuk

I know the 1FMs are rare, but never heard much about them as desired classics..Maybe the association with the BBC is not that great??

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willis

The limited edition 1.6 & 1.9 sorrento green/Miami blues will always be worth more as they only made 300 of each (at a guess 30 of each left?). Also, topaz blue models seem to fetch more money too as they only made them for a year. There's a good 1fm website if you want to know the whereabouts of most of them. BTW on the how many left website there are around 5500 left with 3500 being sorn'd. Interestingly there are more 1.9's left though I'm not sure how many were originally........

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notamondayfan

What about factory fitted Dimma's too? Kinda wish I'd kept hold of mine.

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dcc

pretty sure dimma's were crashed GTi's and repaired werent they? ;)

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Gman

If I was going in for an investment, then there are much better cars to sink your money into.

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Ams

If using for track, I'd get a circa 1989/90 model as they tend to fair the best.

 

What's different about the 89/90 models over the others that make them more suited for track use?

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dcc

typically speaking they rust a lot less. the key places being headlight panel, sills and the inner wings.

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AlexRS2782

Most valuable will always be the totally standard, low mileage / concours type cars tbh as they will definitely give you a return on your money (if that would be the intended purpose).

 

To give you an example from the Ford scene of similar age / classic cars, a guy bought a Series 1 RST 12 years ago for circa £1k, albeit in need of an engine rebuild, when prices were fairly low & cars easily obtainable - car was kept standard, used in concours, etc - 4 months ago the car sold for just short of £20k to a collector.

 

Give it enough time & similar sort of 205's, etc, will command fairly high prices tbh.

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allye

Or perhaps not as valuable as a 1FM, but how about a 3 door 309 Goodwood? I'd love one if I had the cash, maybe even more than a 1FM.

309's are generally worth less

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omega

the anser to your question

 

is mine!! :D:D

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harryskid

At the end of the day they are only worth what an individual is prepared to pay for one, 10 grand no way for and old bit of rusty French tin!

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welshpug

10 grand no way for and old bit of rusty French tin!

 

quite, but one in very good condition with history to boot then maybe.

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mowflow

In about 5 years time 10k will probably seem like a bargain for an original one (when I say original I mean triggers broom original).

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driversdomainuk

At the end of the day they are only worth what an individual is prepared to pay for one, 10 grand no way for and old bit of rusty French tin!

 

Slight contradiction there!! :) You say they are worth what an individual is prepared to pay, then say no way for £10k....

 

Maybe not yet. But rusty French tin....look at Fords, they are REAL rust buckets. But look at the prices of them now! Maybe the 205 will get to that price, maybe not. Only time will tell I guess.

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dale205mills

Time will tell what value are little gems will be worth but I could be broke and I would sell my other cars but I would keep the silver 205 and my Ford Transit as that can earn me a living and the 205 will be my only bit of joy left, I brought my first 205 when I was 16 and I am now 28 and still have one, well 2 and a half, some people will call me sad for being round them that long but they are a great car and need to be looked after for future generations to see what the 1980's where all about as that is the era I was born and I will be buying more 80 cars and a Renault 5 gt turbo or a BMW E30 325I sport is next on the list.

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Simes

I brought my first 205 when I was 16 and I am now 28 and still have one,

 

Don't worry, I'm about to have my 'special birthday' and have owned one continuously since I was 26!

 

Wait until Miles comes along, he's only a bit older than me.

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