Abs Shafts In Non Abs Hubs

[allye 530 3 Cars]

Evening all,

 

So last week I changed the hubs on the 309 from the 306 items to the correct 205/309 items.

 

Then when I tightened up the hub nut the wheel binds solid, after some deliberating with Anthony it appears I may be to do with the ABS shafts (and I assume why it had 306 hubs on previously)

 

So just looking for some advice from some one who may have done this, is it as simple as grinding the ABS splines off the end of the shafts?

 

Many Thanks!

 

Ali

[Tom Fenton 1,526]

Put some paint on it, offer it up, spin the shaft in the hub and then look where it's rubbing.

[allye 530 3 Cars]

Good idea Tom, will give that a try.

[Anthony 1,000]

When I've seen it before, it was just the outer tip of the ABS teeth that fouled and a quick dressing with a grinder fixed it.

 

As Tom says, a bit of paint should highlight the issue, although you'll likely find that it'll leave an obvious enough mark without. Tighten the hub nut until the wheel still turns but is obviously suffering resistance as something is catching, turn it round sufficiently to ensure there's a mark, and see where the issue is.

[welshpug 1,626]

the guys are on the right track, the hub or CV needs a small amount of material removing as the 406 CV's are more substantial items, I can't remember which bit specifically, but I don't think it was the abs ring itself.

 

I'll ask George shortly if I remember.

Edited July 2, 2013 by welshpug

[james_pug 26 1 Cars]

V6 shafts? You need to grind abit of the hub off, only a small bit ill see if I have a pic.

[james_pug 26 1 Cars]

[allye 530 3 Cars]

Legend James, yep, 406 shafts in the 205/309 hubs. I will take a grinder to it and report back.

 

I torqued up the hub nuts then tried to turn the hub without wheel with a lever bar on the studs so should have some decent marking where it has fouled.

[james_pug 26 1 Cars]

I think I had to take the abs rings off aswell, it was quite a long time ago now but they just knock off easily.

[allye 530 3 Cars]

ah, the abs splines are on a ring, that makes it easier.

 

Pain in the arse as I'll have to refill the bloody gearbox again through the fudging breather which takes an age!

[welshpug 1,626]

jack the one side up as high as possible, should lessen if not stop the oil.

[james_pug 26 1 Cars]

You could cut through the abs ring then you wouldn't need to remove the shafts.

[welshpug 1,626]

I wouldn't be so sure about that, most abs rings are machined into the cv...

[allye 530 3 Cars]

I was never a fan of the jacking one side up deal, just feals as though you are twisting the car!?

[james_pug 26 1 Cars]

I'm fairly sure these are pressed on, it was a while ago though. Ill to poke my head under mine and see if its got abs rings.

[welshpug 1,626]

I was never a fan of the jacking one side up deal, just feals as though you are twisting the car!?

 

 

just imagine the forces that happen when you're driving!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

[allye 530 3 Cars]

Dont be stupid Mei, I seem to barely drive this one!

[james_pug 26 1 Cars]

The abs rings are just pressed on.

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

It depends on the SHaft if the ABS rings are pressed on or part of the CV joint. As said you do need to take some off, I remember I hardly took any off the one I did and that was with the ABS ring fitted too

[allye 530 3 Cars]

cheers Miles, yer it can't be much to take off as I could still just about turn the wheel with a lever bar when torqued up .

 

I'm tackling it tomorrow along with raising the rear!

Edited July 3, 2013 by allye

[sub205 5]

A mate just installed the ABS shafts and drove away. For several miles there was a light sound, nothing to worry, and the shafts adapted themselves ;-)