New Mot Rules For 2012

[stebbs 5]

Doesn't effect us too badly as its clamping down on hid lights, dash warning lights, air bags, abs and ecu remapping and chipping. However there are some things on stuff like battery wiring location and catalytic converters.

Government getting anal on the old ecu mapping because that's all police cars have done...not the air filters, intercoolers and stuff that modified cars have?

Or just trying to keep us safer by making sure stuff works

[Leon 24]

There is nothing in the 2012 MOT revision about chipped or remapped ECUs.

 

http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/11%20008.pdf

Edited January 8, 2012 by Leon

[stuart1298 6]

Any warning light on the dash is an auto fail, even a light that's says ya air con ain't working for example. Also so bar sockets have to work, even if you don't have any intention of towing

[stebbs 5]

Ah I read from here http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/car-servicing-repair/mot-changes-2012.html

So second hand...still harsh things to come.

[Leon 24]

Any warning light on the dash is an auto fail, even a light that's says ya air con ain't working for example.

And that's not correct either.

[Leon 24]

Ah I read from here http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/car-servicing-repair/mot-changes-2012.html

So second hand...still harsh things to come.

There isn't anything in that link about chipped ECUs either.

[starky5 18]

On a kind of relevant note does anyone have a list of what is checked under an MOT? I know the rough idea but would be nice to have a full break down so i can be prepared!

[Leon 24]

The draft of the new 2012 manual was available on the VOSA site but has since been removed. I think that's because the new items are not going to be failure points until April 2012.

 

The existing manual is here

[stuart1298 6]

I'm going on what the 50 or so mot stations I deal with on a daily basis tell me,

[deryck3 1]

They wouldn't be able to keep ontop of who has a ramapped ecu and who doesn't, surely?

[MiniGibbo 142]

There's nothing to worry about if your cars. It falling to bits it'll pass.

 

Rigid fixed seats

Removing air bag systems

Removing abs

ecu's

 

Will All be fine..

[Leon 24]

I'm going on what the 50 or so mot stations I deal with on a daily basis tell me,

Then I hope they have a proper read of their testing manuals soon, or they are going to have an awful lot of appeals submitted against them.

[dcc 855]

they would have to speak to the ecu to see if it is remapped/chipped. i think this concerns diseasles more. although, that shouldnt effect emissions/smog at idle.

[Tom Fenton 1,563]

There is some definite mis information being bandied about regarding the new regs.

 

I had my Audi tested last week, I had a chat with the tester as he knows I take a lot of cars there through the year, there are 6 of my own to do and then usually a good few more customers and family members cars.

 

The main points he brought up were,

 

• Any split rubber gaiter on a suspension joint is a failure, even if there is no play in the joint
  
• All driveshaft gaiters are now failable if split, previously it was only the front outers that were tested
  
• Front passenger door must open from the inside, this was not previously tested
  
• Towbar sockets, not yet tested, but it will be only the 13pin euro plug (if fitted) that gets tested, not the usual 7 pin plug in the UK
  

[Anthony 1,003]

Exactly, as usual a lot of nonsense being peddled around.

 

Read the MOT manual for yourself, which has been updated with the new regulations - Updated MOT manual

 

With regards warning lights, the ABS/ESP and Airbag/SRS warning lights on the dash must work correctly. If it doesn't come on at all, it'll fail, and if it comes on but doesn't go out like it should, it'll fail.

 

Most things in the new test are quite sensible, and largely things that you would have assumed would be tested previously. If you have a car in a good state of repair and you keep on top of maintenance like you should, there's nothing in the new test that should cause you any bother - especially in something as primitive as a 205.

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

You'll see a surge of Electronic timers on Ebay soon to mimic the light sequences

[Baz 421]

Test certificates are now a joke tbh, very easy to replicate.

[Leon 24]

Test certificates are now a joke tbh, very easy to replicate.

It's because the MOT "certificate" is now no more than a receipt. The validity of an MOT should only be checked online, not using the receipt.

 

From

here:

 

The test certificate is no longer proof of an MOT and shouldn’t be relied on as such. Only the MOT computer database record can prove a vehicle has a valid MOT.

[welshpug 1,680]

as Leon said, not so easy to falsify the computer records is it

[SurGie 54]

But for those that dont understand the new system will rely on the certificate like they always use too, not everyone can use a computer and thus some vulnerable members of the public maybe ripped off.

 

It's a pity the emissions part of the mot is on a separate piece of paper and not on the back of it, like the advisories. It's a bit of a half arsed job wanting to save money, yet waste it on more paper.

[welshpug 1,680]

you can always use the phone you know, the number is on the piece of paper.

 

can;t have the emissions on the same sheet, comes from a different machine, same as the brake tests.

[davev 1]

There is some definite mis information being bandied about regarding the new regs.

 

I had my Audi tested last week, I had a chat with the tester as he knows I take a lot of cars there through the year, there are 6 of my own to do and then usually a good few more customers and family members cars.

 

The main points he brought up were,

 

• Any split rubber gaiter on a suspension joint is a failure, even if there is no play in the joint
  
• All driveshaft gaiters are now failable if split, previously it was only the front outers that were tested
  
• Front passenger door must open from the inside, this was not previously tested
  
• Towbar sockets, not yet tested, but it will be only the 13pin euro plug (if fitted) that gets tested, not the usual 7 pin plug in the UK
  

 

just thought id clear this up also. the 7 pin socket is also tested. we have the socket tester at work including the adaptor.

 

as anthony mentions if you keep your car in good condition the changes will not bother you, as most are just normal reasonable items that have been clarified, with some funny non component related advisorys added.

[stebbs 5]

Glad to have some of these cleared up. Just thought I'd mention it as you have till march 31st I think

[24seven 104]

After a bit of Google'ing the only mention of ECU's was on engines where the OEM ECU has been remapped, as found on the Lynx supercharger kit for the GTi6. Basically manufacturers are kicking up a stink claiming that reprogramming of their ECU's shouldn't be allowed as it violates some software/ownership rights they own, something along those lines. What the debate boils down to is how they actually intend to check the ECU's map compared to the factory default, because it's not exactly practical. There's also talk of how cars which are taxed based on their emissions will fare once they've been modified, producing more power and burning more fuel.

[harryskid 193]

After reading all this i'am glad my rally cars due for its mot next week! Phew