1988 205 Enging Loom

[Spiky 37]

here are some pics from someone enging loom

 

anyone tell me all the pin outs?

 

how come the 1988 model has so little wires? where are feeds feees for starter and fuel, and the sensors?

 

[Spiky 37]

ok i know now the 6 pin plugs pin outs

 

is there a seperate sensor look on the early models?

[Anthony 1,000]

It looks like that fuel-only management loom uses a Phase 1 type sensor and ignition loom, which is very different to the Phase 1.5 and Phase 2 that you're likely more used to working on. The loom runs through the passenger side of the car, with the dash gauge/light wiring running straight to the back of the clocks, and the ignition side of things running to the fusebox.

[Spiky 37]

i just found a pic of a 205 with a black box on the inner wing, is there where that loom goes via?

 

surely the looms doesnt run straight from the sensors on the engine stright to clocks, with no break's?

[Masekwm 2]

When I broke my phase 1, the loom didn't have the brown engine bay plug. So looking at your photo and thinking of the phase 1.5 loom I have out the car at the moment, that's correct, it would run straight to the two small plugs under the dash.

 

I can't remember what went from that black box, it was a few wires in there I ultimately couldn't match up and ended up me scrapping the car.

 

Out of interest how much do you charge these days for mating a 306/205 loom?

 

Keith

[Spiky 37]

this must be a phase 1 then

 

bugger

 

my looms

 

85 if you supply me the looms

 

120 if i supply them

[Anthony 1,000]

surely the looms doesnt run straight from the sensors on the engine stright to clocks, with no break's?

That's exactly what it did from memory! There was a 3 pin connector that seperated the coolant and oil temp sensors near the engine, but otherwise, all the guage and warning light wiring ran straight through to the back of the dash - certainly caused me a bit of headscratching initially, given that I obtained the loom already off the car, incomplete, damaged, and in a box tangled up with a couple of other looms

 

this must be a phase 1 then

 

bugger

It's not a proper Phase 1 loom either though, or atleast, not the same as ones that I've seen - that's why I said it must use a Phase 1 type ignition and sensor loom, rather than it was a Phase 1 loom. 1988 seems late for Phase 1 as well, as the changeover was in late 1987 AFAIK.

 

Proper Phase 1 looms (ie C/D reg sort of era) that I've seen have the tachymetric relay on the sensor/ignition side of the loom (which is intertwined with the lighting and fan loom) and then the engine management loom has a couple of connections going into it - one for power etc which is in the black box with the tachymetric relay near the battery, and another for the timing pulse from the coil which is near the ECU. I've got a pinout and photos of it somewhere at home. The one you have there is clearly different to that, but still looks to follow the Phase 1 wiring ethos.

 

Hopefully someone like Miles who's probably seen much more Phase 1 stuff than me will be able to comment further.

[Spiky 37]

cheers for that

 

sadly the car and pic's in question is in spain, the guy has pretty good english, but i see this being a nightmare

[jnl 0]

Yeah this is my carr lol

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

It's the easiest of looms to convert, sensor loom uses the std 205 one, you only need the fuel pump, tacho and switch + wired in

Looks more like a 309 loom or what we would have had in the UK

[Baz 421]

Foot fetishist?

 

[jnl 0]

My car has been living in UK, was originally purchased in France, then with only brown connector could be done? I'm bitter

[welshpug 1,622]

that's just like a P1.5 1987 car I fitted an MI16 into, like miles said one of the easiest ones to convert.

[jnl 0]

that's just like a P1.5 1987 car I fitted an MI16 into, like miles said one of the easiest ones to convert.

 

Good now that I think My car was in January 88 matriculao

but I think the car is 87, "would be the outline for cuas

assembly? thanks

[jnl 0]

All right but my loom where is two browns connectors? near of case fuse? thanks

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

It does not have 2 brown connectors, Only later car's used them

[pug_ham 240 3 Cars]

As made clear in previous replies, your car will have the sensor wires coming through the bulkhead with the majority of the lighting etc wires infront of the fusebox with just the ecu wiring running through the bulkhead to the ecu seperately so its even easier to convert.

 

Fuel pump feed should be in the brown plug in your first / third picture though as it runs from the tachy relay plug.

 

Don't the dash guages run via the fusebox first before the guages?

 

Graham.

[Spiky 37]

just to check, he has a LHD car and his fuse box is on the right hand side of the car.

 

which side will the sensor loom come through on then?

Edited July 28, 2010 by Spiky

[jnl 0]

Hello i found this connector near of my engine and i have two conector with this numbers

 

pictures loom

 

6---

30 red

47a blue

30a brown

47

30b red

green without number

9---

69 yellow

6aa grey

47 grey ligth

73 brown

7a lyla

74 red

47b red

112 blue

 

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and the connector what is connected of ecu loom is this

32

46a

76

black green without number

Edited July 28, 2010 by jnl

[Spiky 37]

looks like you have most of the wires there

[jnl 0]

This is my loom? all right!!!

[jaggers12 2]

sorry to bring this topic up again but but im doing a gti6 swap and i have the same loom as the one in the pics, so dose this mean i need to pull the wiring out on the passenger side aswell or just the one going to the ecu. thanks also my car is a rhd 88 dimma

[jnl 0]

I have not made ​​the installation of wiring You got it

solve? greetings