Anyone Tried The New Yoko Tyres?

[dave_gti 0]

I been browsing the tinterweb for new tyres, and found the new Yokohama ADVAN Neova AD08 Tyre. Yoko claim its ‘The fastest street tyre around’ and from what I have read they seem to be excellent in the dry and good in the wet.

 

 

At £70 they seem quite tempting.

 

Or at £50 Parada Spec 2?

 

 

has anyone had any experience with either of these?

[Cameron 16]

No but they look pretty cool! Somewhere between a normal road tyre and a semi-slick by the looks of it.

[AdamP 0]

Is this Yoko's response to the Toyo R1R? With E-marked semi-slicks such as the 48R and R888 being phased out these will soon be the best road legal tyres you can buy...

[fast_eddie 0]

just come back from meching at Croft today and the general 'consensus' is dont bother with Yoko at all..

 

just my collective trackday/pit garage walkabout collation and 'I' would not buy any Yoko tires if I thought it may possibly rain anyway (this is from many years previous experience of spending my own money)

[AdamP 0]

just come back from meching at Croft today and the general 'consensus' is dont bother with Yoko at all..

 

just my collective trackday/pit garage walkabout collation and 'I' would not buy any Yoko tires if I thought it may possibly rain anyway (this is from many years previous experience of spending my own money)

 

I use A021Rs and I would go as far as to say they are very good in the rain! Certainly much better than the Toyo Proxes and Pirelli P6000s I've also tried. The large tread blocks on the 21Rs mean they warm up quickly in damp conditions and they cope with standing water surprisingly well.

 

Having said that they are advertised as 'Rally wet tyres' so you would sort of expect it....

 

Even the virtually bald A048Rs I use on the hills worked well at Llys y Fran last year where the water was coursing down the hill like a river! Many cars on the hillclimb scene actually run SS A048Rs / A032Rs as wet tyres!

 

The Yoko non R-spec tyres on the other hand don't seem to be particularly good. They don't seem to be bad, just not the tyre of choice for any specific quality.

[Sandy 191]

Our race cars in the Combe Saloons with AD08s, have all knocked about half a second a lap off with these over T1Rs, clear as a bell. When some were using them and some weren't the difference was noticeable. I was exepcting them to be crap in the damp for last Sunday's qualifying, but they were still quicker.

Edited July 24, 2010 by Sandy

[rescue dude 0]

Just checked and the AD08's are list 1a so may well be worth investigating further.

[yeti-dj 7]

i just got 4 of the paradas spec2 on my 205, good in the dry but i can now get the wheels to spin in 3rd in the wet. entertaining but not that useful!

[Cameron 16]

Is this Yoko's response to the Toyo R1R? With E-marked semi-slicks such as the 48R and R888 being phased out these will soon be the best road legal tyres you can buy...

 

Yikes! When is this happening? May have to stock up..

[welshpug 1,683]

That's just internet/media hype

[Cameron 16]

Thank fook for that!

[welshpug 1,683]

I've not seen anything from the manufacturers regarding this, all the tyres are already E-marked, so unless the rules for a "road tyre" are changed than I can''t see anything happening.

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

About time Yoko brought out a fair road tyre as none to date have been any good wet or dry, I guess there main comparsision is the Toyo for them now in the budget brand area, but again it's far from the best tyre out there.

Shame they cannot get it right as the 48R's are pretty good

[lukesaddy 0]

From what ive heard, both mechanicing for a rallycross team and from mates with road cars.

 

The A048's are a decent multi surface tyre (for the rallycross lads) and they seem to grip well on road driving.

[Rippthrough 98]

i just got 4 of the paradas spec2 on my 205, good in the dry but i can now get the wheels to spin in 3rd in the wet. entertaining but not that useful!

 

 

They're fine in the wet, provided you can get them warm - although my car does fun quite a soft arb and low roll centre so it's loading the tyres up slower anyway - it's only when it's icy/greasy that they're a bit crap imo, 'cause you can't get them warm.

Not brilliant, but not as bad as people make out imo, given the price, they're very picky about the car setup though, probably 'cause the sidewalls are so soft.

Edited July 24, 2010 by Rippthrough

[screwloose 6]

They're fine in the wet, provided you can get them warm - although my car does fun quite a soft arb and low roll centre so it's loading the tyres up slower anyway - it's only when it's icy/greasy that they're a bit crap imo, 'cause you can't get them warm.

Not brilliant, but not as bad as people make out imo, given the price, they're very picky about the car setup though, probably 'cause the sidewalls are so soft.

One of the main problems with Parada Spec 2s is the s*ite sidewalls which seem to flex more than any other tyre I've driven on.

[Rippthrough 98]

One of the main problems with Parada Spec 2s is the s*ite sidewalls which seem to flex more than any other tyre I've driven on.

 

 

'S why they're crap unless the car suits them - the carcass and shoulders are bloody stiff, but the sidewalls are very soft and the compound is somewhere in between, weird construction really, but it stops the tread rolling over a la F1's and T1R's, so they can take some heat without falling apart, I don't think I'd go with them again unless I knew I was doing a few more trackdays than I am at the minute, 'cause I seem to kill most road tyres on track.

[AdamP 0]

That's just internet/media hype

 

They won't suddenly become illegal like a lot of the internet sites have said, but regulations are being put in place steadily from 2012 onwards to make tyres more environmentally friendly and have lower rolling resistance. Unless some magic rubber is invented R rated tyres won't meet the standards that the EU are aiming for (Toyo did announce this). It won't be illegal to buy them, it wont be illegal to sell them and it wont be illegal to make them but they won't gain the E-mark which means they wont be legal to run on the road in britain.

 

Of course who would be able to tell the difference between emarked and non emarked ones?

[Baz 421]

Parada's do take an absolute beating on track treadwear-wise, but tbh the sidewall flex is ridiculous. It makes the car handle strangely when you get a secondary 'squirm' into corners as the tyre walls fold over, and if you raise the pressures to try and reduce it they then start wearing odd/badly (obviously). And, i had one with the tread section start to de-laminate away from the main carcass at Cadwell a few weeks ago!

 

 

It depends what you want from them, i've had and have loads of Yoko's and find them generally great until it's wet, but if anything the 539's, 520's and 510's of yesteryear which i still have a few of are actually better than the Parada's in the dry. But, they act differently as soon as they've gone off, as i think a pair of mine have now. Not quite on par with the F1's and T1's etc for dry grip, but not far off and they don't suffer the same wear-rate.

 

The 'R' rated ones, and Yoko seem to brand them in their ADVAN range, are again quite different though, so i reckon these new ones will be quite good, akin to as mentioned the AO-series, 48, 21's etc, so not really comparible to the road-tyres like Parada's etc.

[rescue dude 0]

Of course who would be able to tell the difference between emarked and non emarked ones?

 

 

Errrrrrrrrrrr the MoT man, VOSA, the Police and anyone who can read.

[AdamP 0]

Errrrrrrrrrrr the MoT man, VOSA, the Police and anyone who can read.

 

Anyone who knows where to check, which excludes a lot of VOSA inspectors and most of the constabulary. Other than the MOT I bet you'd have no trouble. I know people who run non e marked ACB10s on the road with no issues and they actually say 'for competition use only' on the side! Of course I've never done it myself though