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vickiw106

4 Pot Calipers

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vickiw106

After doing a rally the weekend if feel its time to upgrade my brakes

I am currently running 14 inch rims and wondered what options are open to me.

 

Any ideas or opinions would be appreciated

 

Thanks

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welshpug

what spec are you running now?

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vickiw106
what spec are you running now?

i am currently running 206 1.6 16 valve calipers with 266mm discs.

i do have drums on the back but i going to swap for disc setup.

 

thanks

ian

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welshpug

what about the rest of the car?

 

wouldn't bother with discs at the back for rallying, handbrake is far better on drums.

 

budget is also important here, I service for a few 205 rally cars, the standard engined 1.6 runs standard 1.6 calipers with yellowstuff pads and race fluid, no issues at all :lol:

 

the other has Bremsport 28-something belled discs and 4 pot calipers, but are under 15" wheels, hawk black pads, race fluid and a pedal box.

 

another car is running standard 1.9 calipers and discs, not sure what pads he has, again, race fluid.

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andychalmers

The only 4 pots Im aware of that fit under 14" wheels are Hi-spec ones (they will actually fit under 13"), they use a 285mm disk I think.

 

1600 & 1900 disk setup are fine for rally use as long as you use something like Mintex 1155 pads.

 

drums on the back are better than disks but are a pain to service every rally, disks are fine but crap handbrake so fit a long vertical one.

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welshpug

there's more than just Hi spec that'll fit under there, IIRC peugeot sport themselves had setup for the 106 made by AP, I know that Wilwoods definitely fit under a 106 14" steel.

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welshpug

that's the buggers I had in mind!

 

another RR member has 270mm Wilwoods under standard rallye steel wheels.

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GTI6BOY

the largest brake set up hi-spec can get under a rallye wheel is 260mm

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welshpug

that's amusing when a stock pug caliper uses a 266mm like they already have fitted, and that wilwoods and AP can take 10mm more! well 5mm..

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kyepan

was gonna say ap would proably do something!

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EdCherry

We've got AP Racing 4 pots under 13s at college.

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welshpug

yeah but how big are the discs ed ;)

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EdCherry

pretty f***ing huge... centre lock wheel though on a floating bell...

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Jer309GTi

Very slightly off-topic, but do 306 xsi 266mm brakes fit under a 106 rallye steel does anyone know?

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sussex_gti

Yes, had them on my 106 xsi with Rallye steels. Were brilliant brakes.

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Jer309GTi

Thanks :(

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Nathan_marriott

On my rally car ive got alcon 4 pots on 288ish (?? cant remember as its been while since ive used it been doing too many events in the MKII Escort!)

 

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They fit under peugeot 14" wheels but they have to be the GTX ones as they have more clearance in the wheel. see pic. (just)

 

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The Pug 106 AP ones fit under 14"s but think that they two have to be either Compomotive or GTX......

 

I would personally change to a different pad materiel and see how you get on.

 

I used to have 1.9 Calipers on my old car and worked well and they also didnt have those silly retaining plates that hold the pads in, that i used to wire lock in.......made a mess on my mates car when one came out.......

 

Use Mintex 1155 generally. On the 4 pots ive got DS3000 as they came with them and mintex 1155's as spare set. in the back ive got 1144's on discs.......

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vickiw106

thanks for everyones help

 

i think for cost reason i am going to stay with my setup but change

the pads

 

i am currently running mintex 1155's whats people opions on other types of pads

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PaulJLLD
thanks for everyones help

 

i think for cost reason i am going to stay with my setup but change

the pads

 

i am currently running mintex 1155's whats people opions on other types of pads

 

 

Try DS3000 know lots of people who use them on the front of 205s

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