A Few Rear Beam Questions

[All Praise The GTI 3]

yes i have searched before anyone shouts at me but couldnt find all the answers i needed.

 

1. are 205 and 309 trailing arms the same?

2. am i right in believeing all traling arm shafts are the same,even on base models etc?

3. how do you tell if a beam tube is knackered?? i know if the shafts are indented they are

 

thanks in advance

[jord294 95]

1, yes

 

2, yes

 

3, if you can see the outer edge of bearing casings inside the tube. all is good

 

this is bad

 

[CosKev 16]

If the bearings have totally colapsed and the arm pins have been pressing on the tube/bearing case the tube could be damaged.

When bearings are removed if the area that bearings sit on are not worn etc the tube is ok.

[welshpug 1,678]

1, fitment wise yes, camber and toe vary.

 

2, yes, base model ones just have 2 plastic plugs.

 

3, pull the arm out and see if the shaft has worn through the bearing into the tube.

[CosKev 16]

Beaten to it by the King of Beams!!!!!!!

[All Praise The GTI 3]

excellent. thanks for the quick reply mate

so basically if the bearings come out ok and dont look like they mashed to start with the tube should be a ok?

 

just another quick one. if the trailing arm shafts are indented abit cant the bearings just be fitted slightly further into the tube so they sit on a fresh bit of shaft? lol

[welshpug 1,678]

no, there isn't quite enough space for that

[CosKev 16]

Have read people on here saying that if the arm pins are only slightly pitted on bottom/top you can turn the pins so the damaged areas are on the front/back,is this ok to do???????

[SurGie 54]

Are the bearing easy enough to pull out if they are new, or do you need to use a tool to pull them out, carefully ?

[Paul_13 212 1 Cars]

I think the outer bearing is easy enough to get out, the inner one you need to bodge up a tool to get them out

[All Praise The GTI 3]

the bearings are knocked out mate so you wouldnt want to if they are new lol.

beam double ended studs showed up today thanks again

[Paul_13 212 1 Cars]

Regarding the 309 beam vs. 205 beam (fight!)

Is it the beam tube thats longer?

 

Sorry to butt in

[SurGie 54]

Yes on the 309 beam and arms, except the 309 16v arms have more camber and toe.

[Paul_13 212 1 Cars]

Hmmm... My 306 gti6 arms should do the trick then

[Baz 421]

Beaten to it by the King of Beams!!!!!!!

 

Anthony didn't post, neither did pugtorque...

[welshpug 1,678]

There's loads of different camber and toe settings out there, so its definitely worth making sure you use a pair from the same vehicle!

 

 

 

 

 

Agreed Baz!

[JonnyB 1]

What about the arbs - can you use 309 arbs on a 205 beam?

 

What about the torsion bar?

 

Sorry to butt in

 

J

[welshpug 1,678]

 

no, they are longer....

[Baz 421]

Yes on the 309 beam and arms, except the 309 16v arms have more camber and toe.

 

And bigger bars.

[CosKev 16]

Anthony didn't post, neither did pugtorque...

 

Arse kisser

 

I've not seen pics of beams that either of the afore mentioned members have re-built that look as good as Jord294's

 

[jord294 95]

I think the outer bearing is easy enough to get out, the inner one you need to bodge up a tool to get them out

 

the easiest way to knock out the inner bearings is to use an old trailing arm shaft.

 

it can also be used to knock in the new inner bearing, to a depth of about 20cm