Braided Lines Through The Car

[porter_bmx 0]

hi all, ive got copper brake lines running inside the car at the moment and they are a real eye sore, how hard is it to run braided lines? i imagine that fitting the fittings would be a real pain in the back side?

cheers

[tri_longer 25]

hi all, ive got copper brake lines running inside the car at the moment and they are a real eye sore, how hard is it to run braided lines? i imagine that fitting the fittings would be a real pain in the back side?

cheers

 

 

I wouldn't agree with that. On my race car we fitted some custom braided lines to the rear discs and they were nice an easy to do.

 

I've just done copper lines through the my road 205 and they were a barsteward. The only reason I didn't go full braided was cost of the pipe and fittings. Fitment I think would have been infinitely easier. In fact there is every chance I will change then in the future anyway.

[porter_bmx 0]

thats good news, any idea where i can get the fittings from??

[tri_longer 25]

thats good news, any idea where i can get the fittings from??

 

plenty of places sell them. Just spend some time planning how you want it all to be plumbed together.

 

Speedflow

merlinmotorsport

exact engineering

demon thieves

 

to name but a few and I am sure there are plenty of others. If/when I get round to doing it myself i will probably give my chosen supplier a call and ask them for the best way of doing it to ensure I get all the right bits.

 

For example you need to factor in things such as bias valves if you plan on replacing the standard one/s.

 

I am sure there are plenty of folk on here who have already done this and could recommend the best supplier and route to getting it right

[jackherer 543]

Fitting braided lines in the cabin is comically easy, sadly its also comically expensive

[porter_bmx 0]

i noticed it was a bit on the expensive side , ill get round to doing it as soon as i can get all the parts together

cheers guys

[EdCherry 34 1 Cars]

Expensive and pointless...

 

Copper brake lines, cheap, light, effective

Braided, expensive, heavier

[jackherer 543]

Expensive and pointless...

 

Copper brake lines, cheap, light, effective

Braided, expensive, heavier

 

There are pros and cons with both, copper is very delicate in comparison. I fitted full braided lines to a 205 and my mate did two laps before writing the shell off, it took me about 20 minutes to transfer the entire brake hydraulic system from one shell to the next where copper would have been bent and destroyed probably.

[EdCherry 34 1 Cars]

True there are pro's and con's for both, but id go for copper everytime. The pro's of it outweigh braided. Most of the lines would be protected from impact anyway unless there was a very heavy impact to one of the front corners or head on I doubt you couldn't reuse the lines. You could fit out 3 cars with copper lines before you even got to the price of a braided outfit. Time is really the only pro you've put forward.

[AdamP 0]

Braided is easier to make look nice! My copper lines look like they were made by someone with square thumbs....

[EdCherry 34 1 Cars]

Rather have something built for purpose not aesthetics.

[jackherer 543]

True there are pro's and con's for both, but id go for copper everytime. The pro's of it outweigh braided. Most of the lines would be protected from impact anyway unless there was a very heavy impact to one of the front corners or head on I doubt you couldn't reuse the lines. You could fit out 3 cars with copper lines before you even got to the price of a braided outfit. Time is really the only pro you've put forward.

 

I think durability is the main benefit I am putting forward, the time to fit was a pleasant surprise while reshelling, and aesthetics are irrelevant to me, anyone who was at the last south meet and saw the 205 in question will confirm this

 

It was a very heavy impact on the front left, the cage survived intact but the bulkhead was split wide open along the seam, copper lines would have been damaged there apart from anything else. Even if they were reusable they would have taken way more than 20 mins to fit both times and time is money so it probably works out even in the end. I fitted the lines in a last minute rush before a day at brands which would have been a waste of cash if we'd missed it.

 

Also, while they are expensive, I buy hydraulic hose from an agricultural supplier based on a farm so I don't pay a motorsport 'tax' on them.

[DrSarty 100 1 Cars]

Also, while they are expensive, I buy hydraulic hose from an agricultural supplier based on a farm so I don't pay a motorsport 'tax' on them.

 

Likewise. Mine would be all made to dims and specs given, from an industrial supplier who makes them for cranes and other hydraulic plant. Friend mates too.

[t16ryan 1]

I Would do copper, they will look nicer if you take your time, i done both my 205s recently :

 

[EdCherry 34 1 Cars]

That looks a nice and neat job ryan, I think the worst bit is making nice straights, still got to install mine if I ever find my P clips.

[SurGie 54]

What is that connection where it goes into the back ? is it stainlees steel ?

 

Looks a very tidy job, i hope mine will look similar when i do mine.

[omega 82]

I Would do copper, they will look nicer if you take your time, i done both my 205s recently :

 

 

 

is this practical for a road car?

[porter_bmx 0]

that looks spot on. i have a hydrolic handbrake though and it throws out the nice lines. (cosmetic i know) do i just give rally design a call and the make me some up or can i get the fittings to make my own?

[Baz 421]

Also, while they are expensive, I buy hydraulic hose from an agricultural supplier based on a farm so I don't pay a motorsport 'tax' on them.

 

CRIMP ? or similar?

[Baz 421]

I Would do copper, they will look nicer if you take your time, i done both my 205s recently :

 

 

Didn't think it'd be easier to run one single line then tee it off to each side later, saving hose/time/money etc?

[jackherer 543]

CRIMP ? or similar?

 

Is that a supplier? I've never heard of them... I use http://www.hosequip.com/ I notice he has an automotive section on his website now, I've clearly given him ideas, I hope he hasn't started charging a motorsport tax Although to be fair he is into Fiat X1/9s so he does know about the automotive side of things although it wasn't part of his business before I started buying from him.

[Baz 421]

Yeah, Crimp hydraulic services, Takely if my memory serves me! More agricultural stuff tbh, but Rallyschool boss has used/been sponsored by them for years and they'll make up what you want.

[fast_eddie 0]

Here is mine-Its not very clear(I can get a better one if you like)-I ran one pipe all the way from the bias valve olong the n/s of the tunnel then T off to the respective l/r sides through electrical grommets. The other lines you can see are the flow and return from the standard fuel pump to my filter king, then carbs.

Let me knoe if you want any clearer shots.

 

Cheers