Rallyace 3 Posted November 24 What’s the best upgrade to the front brakes, whilst still being able to use standard 14” wheels? Is there a a larger disc and caliper that will fit, or would the benefits not be enough and therefore be better off keeping the standard setup? I use my car on targa rallies, so the demands on the brakes aren’t excessive, but if there’s an improvement to be had - why not go for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SRDT 180 Posted November 24 Not all 14" wheels are equal, some 1.6 can't even fit with 1.9 calipers unless you do a bit of grinding or use wheel spacers. I think it was on the 206 that you could find 266mm discs and calipers that fit on small wheels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petert 588 Posted November 24 Correct. 14” Speedline have more clearance than SMR. You can fit 266mm under. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,657 Posted November 25 4 hours ago, petert said: Correct. 14” Speedline have more clearance than SMR. You can fit 266mm under. but not on the 1.6 hubs without a custom disc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rallyace 3 Posted November 25 Thank you. I’m on 1.9 hubs and discs with 1.6 calipers. The callipers are in good condition. Which caliper would I need with the 266mm disc? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,657 Posted November 25 There's 4 or 5 different calipers and 2 or 3 different discs, lucas/girling or bosch. Find your calipers and get the appropriate discs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SRDT 180 Posted November 25 While choosing calipers remember to check if you can find racing pads for them, with the more mundane ones you can be stuck with OEM pads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gohn 68 Posted November 27 (edited) hmm, I don't race but surely its still worth getting better quality brake pads and rear drum shoes ? mine are the 1.9Gti Girling caliper with Peugeot (#4246A7) 247mm vented disks on the front and bendix drums on the rear front pads #425070, rear drum shoes #424173 (30mm wide not 40mm) are EBC any good ? part numbers ? also, is it possible to upgrade my rear drums from the bendix 30mm wide to the girling 40mm wide ? thanks Edited November 27 by Gohn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SRDT 180 Posted November 27 You can find both Bendix and Girling 40mm drums on the 309 but you need to figure what wheel cylinders to use with your setup (diameter, internal/external compensator). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Fenton 1,542 Posted November 28 23 hours ago, Gohn said: hmm, I don't race but surely its still worth getting better quality brake pads and rear drum shoes ? mine are the 1.9Gti Girling caliper with Peugeot (#4246A7) 247mm vented disks on the front and bendix drums on the rear front pads #425070, rear drum shoes #424173 (30mm wide not 40mm) are EBC any good ? part numbers ? also, is it possible to upgrade my rear drums from the bendix 30mm wide to the girling 40mm wide ? thanks Performance brake pads are often 4 times the price of standard, and typically last half the time. Unless you have overheated your brakes to the point they no longer worked, you won't really see the benefit, but will have expensive pads that wear out quickly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petert 588 Posted November 28 Here are my Lucas 266mm calipers under 14" Speedlines, with EBC Greens. I recalled that I had to use a 3mm wheel spacer when the pads were new. I wouldn't both messing with the drums. They do bugger all anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gohn 68 Posted November 28 thanks gents, don't mind staying with the original rear drum setup, quite like it actually but its a bit of a bummer to hear there's no point in getting front disk performance pads for all of these low speed suburban roundabouts ! oh well, sent EBC an enquiry so if there's no reply there's no alterations necessary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rallyace 3 Posted Tuesday at 10:30 AM Hi Peter, What are the callipers in your set up originally used on? I think that may be the direction that I’ll take. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites