Gents   I know it's been discussed several times, but i can't find a definite conclusion. I have some 206 drive shafts which I intend to use for my setup. They are 6 ball type C.V's, 33 mm tripods, 82 mm bearing, 25 teeth M24 nut.    I will use 205 hubs (minus 1° camber) yet with an adjustable tubular arm. I intend to add 10mm to compensate for the camber of the 206 hub and about 10mm to get to 309 arms-ish camber. So to add 20 mm to the arm length and then have adjustment in the arm of about +15 to -5 mm. Stive to have about 1 to 2.5 deg camber adjustment window.  All in all I think I need drive shafts that are 209 1.9 +20mm. That's why I went for 206 shafts as I think 309 would be too short anyway.    I dunno what brand mine are, but reverence is SKF though. Simply because I have the drawings. But for the love of god, how do you measure them? I see the lengths should be measured compressed all over the forums. Since I have them in bits and pieces, I can easily do that. I can measure them without the tripod spring even, but that seems to make them a bit shorter. It's easier to measure obviously without the spring but the mounted spring (yet compressed) adds some lengths. Without the spring it really bottoms out in the chamber but with compressed spring there is some 5mm left.    Now the short 206 one does seem to be 590 mm, so very close to the 588 in the drawing of VKJC 4227. This seems sound. 20 mm longer then the 205 1.9 VKJC 3868, which I think would be perfect for me.    But how on earth can it be that 205 are mostly said to be 600 - 840 and 309's to be 610 and 850. If that's true, that can not be the compressed length, right?    Unfortunately I can't find the long shaft SKF drawing of 1.9 205. (only the 1.6 one that should be close) (VKJC 4950) (842mm)   1.9 shaft should be VKJC 4563 (no ABS) or VKJC 5961 (ABS) but both have no drawings. Listed as being 840 mm though.    This is what is really confusing me. VKJC 3868 is listed 568 and the drawing confirms. This is contrary to the 600 - 840 info though. VKJC 4563 is however listed as being 840 which does confirm 600 - 840.    So is this  VKJC 4563 listed as not compressed length or just because there is not drawing and heresay?   And then when I go to the long 206 shaft. VKJC 4236 is listed as being 892 mm. Quite a bit longer then 205. Not too big a deal, because I'm not afraid to shorten it. I would however want to know how much I need to shorten it before I take the car apart just to check it.    The short shaft of 205 vs 206 is +20mm as both SKF drawings confirm. (perfect for me) Yet the longer shaft of 205 vs 206 is + 52 mm????   That got me thinking the ew engine might be placed further to the right of the car. But when I check the 406, the car I know has both UX and EW 1.8 16v, I get the same drive shafts for the UX as the EW. I can't imagine the EW in the 206 is more to the right either, because that's already quite shoehorned in the 206 I recon. Also that would mean the 206 short shaft isn't as perfect for me as I thought. Does the 206 have about 20 + 52 = 72 more track then 205?   Anyone have the drawings of VKJC 4563 and/or definite info on 206 shafts in a 205?