Fitting A Pedal Box

[aarontrophy 26]

Hi guys

 

I'm considering fitting a aftermarket pedal box but will gti6 brakes still be ok? Spoketo Atspeed racing in Essex they say I need better front brakes, otherwise the pedal will be really hard to push down? Hope you guys can help me out

[stu8v 68 1 Cars]

Dont bother, better things to spend your cash on IMHO

[welshpug 1,621]

if you get the pedal leverage ratio and MC sizing right right it'll work well, you don't need to change the calipers.

 

like any non servo assisted setup it will need a harder push on the pedal but personally I got used to one pretty quickly and gave decent confidence as you could modulate very easily, however I don't think I would use one on the road,

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

As said, std callipers are fine with a pedal box, even base model plan disc callipers would be OK (Extreme example I know) so saying you need bigger one's is rubbish

For a road car, I'd stick with a servo unless you need the room around the engine

[harryskid 193]

I don't have a servo on my rally car and after driving normal cars it does tend to seem a bit strange but i have bias braking. On a road car stick to the servo!

[Tom Fenton 1,524]

2 of my 205's have bias pedalboxes in. Personally I like them but often people driving them for the first time are alarmed by how hard you need to push. I like it as the harder you push the harder you stop. It also as miles says makes for plenty of room around the engine.

[stu8v 68 1 Cars]

2 of my 205's have bias pedalboxes in. Personally I like them but often people driving them for the first time are alarmed by how hard you need to push. I like it as the harder you push the harder you stop. It also as miles says makes for plenty of room around the engine.

 

What size M/C's are you using?

[aarontrophy 26]

Room is a good thing that what I need all you guys with them can you upload a few Pics.

[aarontrophy 26]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Race-Rally-Track-Peugeot-205-Pedal-Box-PE2010-/190428022256?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2c566505f0&_uhb=1#ht_1033wt_689

 

Found this 1 thats made for a 205

[Cameron 16]

That looks a bit cack if I'm honest. Why are you considering a pedal box? Barely any people run a floor mounted pedal box as frankly it isn't worth it in 99% of cars. Have a look through the projects and note how many people use floor mounted pedals as opposed to modifying the std brake pedal mount to take 2 mc's and a bias bar.

[Batfink 201]

Sandy had trouble with one of these (possibly not getting full throttle?). I don't remember if he spoke to OBP for a solution

[stu8v 68 1 Cars]

Speak to people who run them on there race or rally car.

 

That way it gives you a fighting chance of not buying useless crap....

[brumster 135 1 Cars]

I'm with Tom - run pedal boxes in the rally car and a Lotus 7 replica thing, and I prefer the feel (most modern cars are just way to over-servo'd these days). You get feel and progression with a pedal box, but you do have to stand on them compared to a servo setup.

 

Not sure what your reasons are for a road car - can only think engine clearance would be a valid reason - otherwise I'd stick with the servo setup if you can.

[cybernck 400 1 Cars]

It doesn't seem possible to mount a floor-mounted pedal box in a 205.

 

Or at least the Compbrake brake pedal I have would require serious bulkhead/floor modification in order to fit.

[mollisk 2 1 Cars]

I have found that fitting AP racing master cylinders make a marked difference to the brakes over say Girling cylinders. Additionally AP make short cylinders which helps with clearence issues when a 16 valve engine is fitted.

[engine killer 5]

I have found that fitting AP racing master cylinders make a marked difference to the brakes over say Girling cylinders. Additionally AP make short cylinders which helps with clearence issues when a 16 valve engine is fitted.

 

yes, AP master cylinders do give better clearance. and the smallest and second to smallest valve size cylinders give a lighter pedal feel (less effort).

[Cameron 16]

It doesn't seem possible to mount a floor-mounted pedal box in a 205.

 

Or at least the Compbrake brake pedal I have would require serious bulkhead/floor modification in order to fit.

 

This one is made to fit apparently, and it looks like it's angled to go up the curve of the bulkhead.

[cybernck 400 1 Cars]

I meant this sort of a pedal box:

 

[welshpug 1,621]

Itll fit fine, but the seat will need to move back and extend the column a bit.

 

Oh and the gearstick!

[cybernck 400 1 Cars]

That's not what I'd class as "fine".

 

If you want it to fit fine and retain the pedal positioning, bulkhead needs to be cut out and a box section put in.

[Batfink 201]

Thats not too difficult a task really....

[Cameron 16]

Nope! And if your car is hardcore enough to warrant a pedal box then it's something you should consider.

 

Although saying that, you'll need to be careful around the subframe mount.

[welshpug 1,621]

or ask Colin nicely if he could do more pedals+box.

 

http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?showtopic=140057&st=0

[309jazzpanda 39]

Not to restart an old thread but how hard is it to make your own from the original pedal box?, I was looking at alexcrosse thread but the pics wont load on my computer of his own build (boooooo).

Tempted to make some as we've got a few cylinders kicking around from hydraulic clutch conversion on escort cozzehs.

 

on a side note i've been trying to delete a comma from my reply which turned out to be, in a red dwarf style.... my sneeze

[johniban 59 1 Cars]

I thought about fitting one to ditch the nasty looking servo and have a nice resivour in its place,