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cybernck

The Definitive Weights Thread

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cybernck

Has anyone got a pair of driveshafts to weigh please?

 

And does anyone have skills and time to make a nice Excel sheet or a simple categorised table with all the data from this topic? :)

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Toddy

Cybernck - I have it in Excel which I can Email to you, just tried to post it up but it goes out of sync. Cheers

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welshpug

not the greatest weighing implement, but a rough indication nonetheless.

XU10J4RS cylinder head complete, covers cams valves pulleys, no thermostat housing or vacuum pump, 27 kilos.

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IMAG2764 by WELSHPUG, on Flickr


XU7JP4 engine block, liners and mains caps present and all bolts, 25 kilos.

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IMAG2763 by WELSHPUG, on Flickr

XU10J4RS engine block - 44 kilos.

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IMAG2762 by WELSHPUG, on Flickr

later XU10 aux/engine mounting bracket, 5 kilos.

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IMAG2759 by WELSHPUG, on Flickr

XU10 crankshaft, 15 kilos.

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IMAG2757 by WELSHPUG, on Flickr

Bendix/Bosch rear brake calipers. 3.5 kilos.

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IMAG2760 by WELSHPUG, on Flickr

306/xsara hollow cast type hub carrier wheelbearing and drive flange, 4.5 kilos.

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IMAG2758 by WELSHPUG, on Flickr

Edited by welshpug

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cybernck

306 GTI-6 rear caliper without pads - exactly 2 kg

 

I'm guessing the 205 GTI one is about the same :).

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stu8v

I removed the PAS setup from my VTS engine and rack

 

Big front engine mount,

2x tensioner pullies,

Pipes flexi and hard,

Header tank,

Ram,

Rack heat shield

PAS pump,

Belt.

 

All that lot 15kg

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Ron_Jaegers

What would be the distribution of that weight over the mentioned components Stu?

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hoodygoodwood

205/309 GTI 'fat' starter motor = 10lb 4oz , Peugeot OE 'slimline' starter = 6lb 4oz .

Obviously there will be some variation depending on brand etc of starter but a 4lb saving has got to be good news .

 

4 short headed GTI wheelbolts = 15 oz

4 long headed GTI wheelbolts = 1lb 3 oz

A 16 oz saving for a full set .

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jackherer

205/309 GTI 'fat' starter motor = 4.65 KG , Peugeot OE 'slimline' starter = 2.84 KG .

Obviously there will be some variation depending on brand etc of starter but a 1.81 KG saving has got to be good news .

 

4 short headed GTI wheelbolts = 0.43 KG

4 long headed GTI wheelbolts = 0.54 KG

A 0.45 KG saving for a full set .

 

I really think we should stick to metric units in this thread!

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RossD

EW10J4S (206 GTi 180) engine - Fully built with manifolds, mounts, flywheel, clutch, starter, alternator - 135Kg (No fluids)

 

BE4 5 speed Gearbox - 34Kg

 

Iron block TU 1.6 8v engine - Fully built with manifolds, mounts, flywheel, clutch, starter, alternator - 118kg (No fluids)

Edited by RossD

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Simmo

Removed my sunroof assembly today - 11.8kg

 

That includes the glass, the metal frame, handles and pipework, bolts and exterior plastic trim...

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Simmo

Bare C5 alloy wheel (PS811815) - 4.8kg

 

 

Probably already posted but couldn't see it... anyone tried doing a linkable excel spreadsheet with this lot on...?

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Simmo

16 Citroen wheel bolts to suit C5 alloy wheel - 1kg

 

16 standard flat washer wheel bolts for 1.9 alloy - 2kg

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dcc

Doesnt sound right to me, unless its an xu9j4

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welshpug

definitely an 8v, says 129ch.

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wicked

Doesnt sound right to me, unless its an xu9j4

 

The same doc for the XU9J4 says 132kg for the XU9j4 including, starter, alternator and fly..

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Anthony

After a bit of searching, I found the 1.9 Mi16 (XU9J4) version of that series of technical documents.

 

http://ddata.over-blog.com/4/23/45/11/XU9J4.pdf

 

Without flywheel = 112.6kg

With flywheel (and clutch?) = 121.6kg

With starter and alternator = 132.7kg

 

Looks like comparing like for like, the 16v engine is around 13kg heavier than the 8v (100, 108, 119kg).

 

I'm struggling to find similar documents for later XU engines, but it's probably reasonable to assume that the equivalent weights (including flywheel/alternator/starter) are those I listed back on page 9. There's still something a little odd with the XU10 figures though.

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welshpug

i know from comparing the XU7 block directly against the bare XU10 block that there's 18 kilos in it as well, but is that 112 kilos including manifolds? it sounds like it given I've weighed a bare 8v at 78 kilos.

 

 

I recently weighed an almost bare TU5J4, it came in at a hefty 100 kilos.

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barneys66

These may well have been posted before, but was swapping wheels yesterday, so..

 

Painted C5 steelie with majority worn 195/50-15 Toyo R888 - 13.1kg

4 x wheelnuts for above - 232g

 

Original Speedline with slightly worn 195/50-15 Michelin PS3 - 14.7kg

Refurbished SMR with slightly worn 195/50-15 Michelin PS3 - 16.0kg

4 x wheelnuts for above - 416g

 

Random Peugeot Quartz 15" wheel trim - 730g

 

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welshpug

Painted C5 steelie with majority worn 195/50-15 Toyo R888 - 13.1kg

 

Original Speedline with slightly worn 195/50-15 Michelin PS3 - 14.7kg

 

 

 

given the C5 wheel is known to weigh 4.7 kilos give or take, and the speedlines about 8 kilos.

 

worn R888 - 8.4 kg.

 

slightly worn PS3 - 6.7 kg.

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mmt

Flywheel weight.

 

5.9kg for 1.6 GTi

6.9kg for 1.9 GTI

6.5kg for Motronic 1.9

Edited by mmt

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calvinhorse

TU 8v engine cam pulleys

 

Tu1/2/3 - 625g

 

TU5 - 450g

 

Piper - 350g

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